Supplementals ? Have they really gone ?

Some time ago I remember reading that Google would be phasing out the supplemental Index. Or thats what I think it said.

I expected this to be the biggest news of 2007 but strangely it sort of slipped by with little being said.

My questions are :

Did I imagine this happened ?

Is the supplemental index gone ? Will it ever be gone ?

Has anyone any news on this at all.

Google remove supplemental labels..

maybe read about it: searchengineland.com/070731-215828.php

The recent update google published was: Yes the supplemental index is going to be the thing of past..

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/12/ultimate-fate-of-supplemental-results.html

Its going.. real soon

Interesting article.. thanks..I wonder what this will mean for LJ transfer.. If anything.

I s'pose it really means the web (or at least google) is about to become much more competative. If supp index is completly merged with main index this will see the total amount of pages considered for any search increase massively. The result being..... ie will it mean the rebirth of things like article sites as an SEO measure.

On thing about SEO it never stays constant for long..

Yes, supplement results has gone. in recent update google remove supplement index.

I'm still sceptical... Maybe it's a silly question/statement but is Google just doing this temporarily to see the effect it will have on search results?

One more thing is what do you think the long-term effect will be on the search results.

The fact they are going to merge those indexes for search doesn't mean that the pages which were in supplemental will not have any label which says "Don't pass any linkjuice!".

IMHO, this is a change in search but it is no change for SEO.

I would actually conclude that: Long Tails are the *in thing* ..

the pages that fail to gather attention with main KW's can show up with the combination of phrases with the main KW included in it..

Means, More data available to the Visitor, means more traffic.. Sounds nice..does'nt it?

Agreed... I think what they are basically saying is we will not show you what pages you or your competitor have in the supplemental index. These pages of course will not rank, and doubt will show up in the index or increase the overall results for any given term, i think they are still just left to the side and ignored. This is why they now have in webmaster tools a section to see duplicated meta tags/title tags, as these are more then likely in the supplemental index.

So it begs the question: are google just trying to ensure webmasters put more of an influence on these factors they add to the webmaster central tool? I can bet any money that thousands of webmasters instantly went about fixing that as soon as this was implemented. Trying to clean up the web without actually forcing people to do so! clever google.

Hi. Sorry for bringing up and old thread but I found this on a google search and I figured it's better to reply than to create a new thread. I've been searching to see what people are saying these days about the supplemental index. It's supposed to be done but I'm experiencing alot of the same problems that people were experiencing when it existed.

I'm having trouble with a page on squidoo.


http:// www. squidoo.com/computer-security-software

I know it's a competitive niche it doesn't rank for anything. I just changed the title yesterday so it's still indexed with the old title but it didn't even rank for it which was "Computer Security Software on Squidoo".

I've tried searching on a bunch of quoted snippets from the article and I don't rank for any like this one:

http:// www. google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&q=%22store+a+very+large+number+of+strong%2C+random ly+generated+passwords%22&btnG=Search

It feels like I've been supplemental'd but that doesn't exist anymore, right?

I had to chop up my urls above because I don't have enough posts to post urls.

I Don't think it is quite this simple. The supp index was always a technolgy constarint issue. It was used to decrease the amount of pages that needed to be searched when a query was entered into google. Their last major infrastructure update from around April/May last year saw the need for this index reduced. Google told us they were "largely" merging the indexes. As to what this actually translates into is still not completley clear. There are a lot more pages with greyed out toolbar now that are still in the index (ie if you search for the url or do a site search the page is in the index). But how many of these pages actually come up in search results is another question. They can come up... but do they come up more often than the old supp index results?...

Still the basic indicators within your site have not changed. This is one use of TBPR that you can see/direct which pages in your site you wish to give the most juice to. Give TBPR to those important pages on your site by using intelligent internal linking and deep links to important internall pages.

Just a note after the last PR update there seems to be a fair few sites that are seeing greyed out TBPR on most internal pages. I think this is probably a glitch in TBPR rather than an indicator of anything else.

I wouldn't be surprised if TBPR is being phased out as part of the crusade against paid links.

It's still there...

Having a glass full of coke and a shooter of rum - downing the rum and chasing it with the coke [an analogy for separate primary and supplemental indexes...

But that's the same as pouring the shooter in the coke and drinking both at the same time... you still taste the coke... and the rum... don't you!

...nonetheless, is the page actually index?

search by cache:url and/or site:domain/directory/ with and without page.

It is indexed but it might as well not be.