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    So maybe, in theory, if it is Google just taking time to re-trust my site, it might eventually rank higher now than before the hack!
    Be careful with that theory, because if it doesn't...whats the reason? I wouldn't throw in too many equations.
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    Originally Posted by Test-ok
    Be careful with that theory, because if it doesn't...whats the reason?
    I will of course be watching it daily - but if that isn't the reason, it simply doesn't make any logical sense.

    If this theory is wrong, I am back at square one.
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    Originally Posted by beelzebomb
    I will of course be watching it daily - but if that isn't the reason, it simply doesn't make any logical sense.

    If this theory is wrong, I am back at square one.
    Links..

    Get some good links.
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    Originally Posted by DarrenHaye
    Links..

    Get some good links.
    I hear you, but any suggestions? I don't want links that are detrimental to my site's standing. As I said before, it was doing just fine before the hack.
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    Originally Posted by beelzebomb
    I'm sort of hoping it is this too. No, I wasn't seeing personalised results, I have Google set up to cover this.

    The site was compromised for about 3-4 days but taken down by my host before Google got to flag it as malware.

    If I look on the bright side, there's always more to learn & take on board SEO-wise. For example, reducing crawl errors due to wordpress and canonicalisation (which I always thought was the process of making a new pope) - 2 things I'd not considered before as I didn't need too.

    So maybe, in theory, if it is Google just taking time to re-trust my site, it might eventually rank higher now than before the hack!


    There could be good after effects in this case , but you will must get the original value .
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    I thought I'd give you an update, it seems to me that enough time has passed to realise my site is not going to recover the position it held before.

    Now sitting at 1-3 (slipped a further 2 places today) on page 2, this seems to be it's regular slot. I feel like I've been punished by Google for the pointless activities of a pointless hacker.

    Slipping from 4th on page 1 to about the same on page 2, how can I think otherwise?

    Any further suggestions welcome.
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    Originally Posted by beelzebomb
    I thought I'd give you an update, it seems to me that enough time has passed to realise my site is not going to recover the position it held before.

    Now sitting at 1-3 (slipped a further 2 places today) on page 2, this seems to be it's regular slot. I feel like I've been punished by Google for the pointless activities of a pointless hacker.

    Slipping from 4th on page 1 to about the same on page 2, how can I think otherwise?

    Any further suggestions welcome.
    Hi beelzebomb,

    It's sad that your ranks were devastated through no fault of your own and I can see why you might expect to get moved right back up to your previous spot automatically, but there are many unseen/unknown factors at work here and it appears that you will have to take some action if you wish to climb back up.

    As for suggestions, several people have advised you to try to build some links and that is undoubtedly the best way to improve your rankings...
    Despite what you said about:
    Originally Posted by beelzebomb
    it ranked because the SEO/keywording was tweaked until it was good enough to get where I wanted
    ...as most SEO's will tell you, tweaking your onsite SEO will not normally make any noticeable difference to your ranking for anything other than the most uncompetitive of keywords/serps.

    It does seem a little unfair, but who knows, perhaps before the hack your ranks were unfairly inflated and now they've reverted to their "natural" spot.

    Bite the bullet and get out there, try to generate some backlinks and you'll soon see an improvement (in fact if your competition is also not building backlinks, that may be how you were able to rank so easily and it may take just a few new ones to push you right back to page #1). You might find that exchanging a few links with semi-relevant sites is enough to make the difference!

    There are many threads about linkbuilding on here, some accessible from the post listed under "new to seochat/seo..." beneath my sig'.
    Also check out the "local search techniques" forum (and - if you haven't subscribed to Google Local, do so).

    Try to find some related/semi-related websites who might respond to a simple request for a backlink (I find I can get particular success with regional websites in this regard).

    If you haven't done it already, submit the site to Dmoz regional listings (then forget about the submission... Do NOT resubmit)! And finally, if your customer websites are hosted seperately from yours, links on some of those might also help.

    Anything you can do to get (followed*) links from sites that are - in any way - related to yours (industry, arts or region) will help your cause.

    (*for this reason I would forget about blog commenting and forum sig' links unless you know of some which allow followed links... Even then they're normally very poor quality links, although a well-rounded link profile is best, so a little of any/everything won't hurt)!

    Good Luck.


    <edit>PS: This thread was never about Google Page Rank, so I've moved it to the Google Optimization Forum instead</edit>
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    Thanks for the detailed advice ClickyB. As an update, I am now back on page one - not at the bottom which I've been for a day or so before slipping back down again, but about half way up - which is a little more secure - so far!

    I've not done anything but write a post on Squidoo that linked to my site, no new blogs on my site or anything.

    I'm not sure what the answer is, or has been, but things are close to being back to how they were.

    I guess it begs the question, how important are links compared to good on-site SEO these days, - or did the Squidoo post (& any subsequent links) do the job?
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    Ok, as a final post on this I am now back to exactly where I was before the hack - that's been a hell of a long time to wait.

    My conclusions are - mostly guesswork of course - that lots of 'good links' do not pay as important a part these days as 'good content' does - unless of course, writing a couple of linked articles for Squidoo has elevated me back faster. I also took out some adwords which may've helped Google trust the site once more, I don't know.

    Anyway, I hope anyone reading this as a start-to-end process from hack to recovery, finds it useful in some way.

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