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Old August 1st, 2007, 12:39 PM
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Seo consulting?

well I've been a member of seochat a while now and visit here to become better at seo and help others at the same time, but with all my efforts my site is still not hardly in the serps at all. I've done every trick I have learned and have completely run out of ideas. The problem I face is about a year ago I remade our website and all of sudden our pr 6 went to not indexed....as well as the rest of the site...This was because I didn't 301 redirect all the pages after the change for months and I guess google didn't like that....sense then I've fixed that and seoed the poop out of it. To the point where I really don't know what else to do. It also has more links pointing to it but nothing with a high pr yet.

So long story short....would I benifit from hiring a seo consultant for 24-7vacations dot com to increase the serps on google or is it fine and I just need to keep working on unique content and links?


If I could benefit greatly from a seo consultant can you please recommend a good on?

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Old August 1st, 2007, 01:05 PM
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If you've read enough so you can apply SEO yourself then i recommend either a) doing a brief SEO training program, b) have an SEO from here that you recognize give help out about specific problems (mentor), c) get an SEO web review and implement the changes yourself.


All of those are cheaper than full out consultation. You'll learn more probably this way too.

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True it would be cheaper, but why is our industry always on the cheap thing?

Ive been guilty of it ?

But when used well out advice and expertise makes people millions of pounds and builds business.

Why do we alwys look for the on the cheap solution?

Ok looking at the site maybe some more basics can be done here.


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If you've read enough so you can apply SEO yourself then i recommend either a) doing a brief SEO training program, b) have an SEO from here that you recognize give help out about specific problems (mentor), c) get an SEO web review and implement the changes yourself.


All of those are cheaper than full out consultation. You'll learn more probably this way too.

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I always tell my clients that they need to develop an SEO Strategy (aka. plan) which can then be implemented by various skilled people: content writers, programmers, PPC, themselves under their control.

Otherwise you are just working blind trying this and that hoping something will "work".

So that is what we do for clients - develop the plan and provide coaching services if needed for its implementation.

So develop a plan.

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Old August 1st, 2007, 04:58 PM
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I've done a few seo web rewviews at domaintools and websitegrader. They helped me find a few more things wrong with the site.


Help out with a specific problem? Problem is, is I don't really know what the rest of the problems with the site it looks perfect to me ;)

Do you happen to know any good seo training programs?

Thanks in advance.

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Old August 1st, 2007, 07:28 PM
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How you worked out your keywords properly? Done any competitive analysis?

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Old August 2nd, 2007, 01:19 AM
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True it would be cheaper, but why is our industry always on the cheap thing?

But when used well out advice and expertise makes people millions of pounds and builds business.

Why do we alwys look for the on the cheap solution?


It's generally because:

1: This industry is a complete and utter mystery to 99% of the population, and even within the industry the skill level differentials are vast.

2: The industry very rarely offers guarantees due to the constantly changing nature of the algos and the fact that we are all at the whim of the search engines.

3: As the industry can't guarantee measurable results it makes SEO spend look risky to the average customer, so seeing as it looks so risky they look to minimise their risk by lowering the cost of their spend on it.

4: As stated in point 1 as there are vast skill level differentials there will always be someone willing to offer SEO on the cheap, and unlike say medical practice where you can measure whether someone is likely to be able to provide you brain surgery by the diplomas (or lack of) on the wall it means that the customer finds it hard to measure the potential of a prospective SEO supplier. Hence the market price is driven down.

So you can work for customers who will pay you what is a low rate in comparison for the return you will generate them, and they will get arsed off with you when an algo change drops their site, or angry that you don't hit the top spot when they are making it impossible by insisting they keep their flash navigation.. or you can realise that you know that you can make sites rank, work out how to monetise those sites.. so start doing it for yourself.. you will find you are the most reasonable client you have ever worked with and even better you get to keep all the money you make

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I'll give my 5 minute page review. You owe me 28 cents for this, payable whenever you see me if you ever travel to wherever it is that I am at that point.


Without digging into the site, the homepage:

1) Has limited, low quality links. You seem to be going after some medium competition keywords.

2) Poor Anchor Text on the links that you do have. Nobody searches for "24-7 Vacation" or some of the other terms. Whenever you have control of the anchors (and it seems that you do on most of your links) use them wisely. "Free Travel Guides" is a good one that you're using, but try more variations.

3) Content is poor. Naturally written, which is good, but still too limited.

4) "FREE Travel Guides & Tourism Information" is your title tag. I've seen worse.

5) Back up to 1. LINK BAIT. You have such a wonderful linkbaiting opportunity. You give away Free Travel Guides! Most of my sites sell cars and I have pretty effective link bait. You have a Golden Ticket (notice the relevant cross-referencing analogy... Golden Ticket... travel guides... I make myself chuckle more than anyone I know) with your website!

Quite frankly, and without sounding insulting, you have a very SEOable website. I would recommend like the others -- come up with a strategy. You could sink some real money into a pro and get fantastic results, OR you could take classes and get decent results...

My recommendation would be to hire one of the guys here who does consulting. Get a complete analysis. Have goals, assets, and budget planned out, then sit down and come up with a true working gameplan. Step by step, day by day, week by week. Most of the good ones here charge between (I'm guessing) $100 and $500 per hour, so get your ducks in a row, but believe me, a complete analysis and a 4-8 hour consult will do wonders.

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Old August 2nd, 2007, 09:44 AM
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thank DiffeeOnline I will see what I can come up with. I'm not very good with link bait type things, but I'll think about it it some more.

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