Google Optimization
 
Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
 
User Name:
Password:
Remember me
Go Back   SEO Chat ForumsGoogleGoogle Optimization

Reply
Add This Thread To:
  Del.icio.us   Digg   Google   Spurl   Blink   Furl   Simpy   Y! MyWeb 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
 
Unread SEO Chat Forums Sponsor:
  #16  
Old November 5th, 2009, 07:55 AM
barlow1984's Avatar
barlow1984 barlow1984 is offline
SEOgarden
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Leek, UK
Posts: 657 barlow1984 User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)barlow1984 User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)barlow1984 User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)barlow1984 User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)barlow1984 User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)barlow1984 User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)barlow1984 User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 5 Days 2 h 38 m 35 sec
Reputation Power: 74
Send a message via MSN to barlow1984 Send a message via Google Talk to barlow1984 Send a message via Skype to barlow1984
All you need is a few authoritive links and you should probably out perform the competition. Very little SEO is now onsite, you get a much better ROI working on IBL's.

Onsite stuff wont harm you and can make a minor increase but thats more or less it, unless your site is uncrawlable.

As has been said post your domain address and people will look into it, and your competitor

Or you can do the back link analysis yourself, there are plenty of tools for this for free, like Yahoo explorer. Page rank again can be a good indicator of how well Google see's your site as an authority.

All these things are pretty basic SEO techiniques. Plenty of other posts about them.

I understand what your saying though, "I type in my url into google so that url should rank number 1". I've thought it myself, however all google see's is that you type in keywords, it doesn't seem to know its a url. So it depends how well your optimising your domain name keyword basically.

Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old November 5th, 2009, 07:58 AM
barlow1984's Avatar
barlow1984 barlow1984 is offline
SEOgarden
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Leek, UK
Posts: 657 barlow1984 User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)barlow1984 User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)barlow1984 User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)barlow1984 User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)barlow1984 User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)barlow1984 User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)barlow1984 User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 5 Days 2 h 38 m 35 sec
Reputation Power: 74
Send a message via MSN to barlow1984 Send a message via Google Talk to barlow1984 Send a message via Skype to barlow1984
on second thoughts, is it even worth bothering with??

How many searches does your actual domain name get in a month?

You might be better just targeting better converting keywords, your domain name will probably then just be a byproduct.

Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old November 5th, 2009, 06:10 PM
bgbs bgbs is offline
Registered User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6 bgbs User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 h 56 m 37 sec
Reputation Power: 0
This has nothing to do with EGO. I run a very complicated site close to 3,000 members. From those members I produce $50K a year. Everyday my site generates over 10,000 visitors, most of them come not from outside links, but typing my link directly to the url bar (talk about loyalty). I get close to 500 content submissions by users daily. The content is of particular kind purtaining to my industry. The user content always successfully gets indexed, analytics show that, but despite of all this, when I type in my domain name, some dead-beat site, which produces jack (and I mean jack), gets priority, thats the problem. It is hard for me to blame myself over this matter when I know that Microsoft search engine gets the job done right. The problem is with google. Six months ago my site was ranking first page in google. Today...well lets not go there.

Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old November 5th, 2009, 09:13 PM
banker0679 banker0679 is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 356 banker0679 User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)banker0679 User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)banker0679 User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)banker0679 User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level)banker0679 User rank is Sergeant (500 - 2000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 2 Days 20 h 26 m 41 sec
Reputation Power: 7
quit complaining....ESPECIALLY if you're not going to post your URL for anyone here to help you.

there could be a whole bunch of reasons why your site is not ranking for it's domain...and nobody here can form an educated guess w/out knowing the domain name.



Quote:
Originally Posted by bgbs
This has nothing to do with EGO. I run a very complicated site close to 3,000 members. From those members I produce $50K a year. Everyday my site generates over 10,000 visitors, most of them come not from outside links, but typing my link directly to the url bar (talk about loyalty). I get close to 500 content submissions by users daily. The content is of particular kind purtaining to my industry. The user content always successfully gets indexed, analytics show that, but despite of all this, when I type in my domain name, some dead-beat site, which produces jack (and I mean jack), gets priority, thats the problem. It is hard for me to blame myself over this matter when I know that Microsoft search engine gets the job done right. The problem is with google. Six months ago my site was ranking first page in google. Today...well lets not go there.
__________________
SEO Blog | SEO Marketing Conference in Charlotte, NC 2010 | Internet Marketing Services

Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old November 6th, 2009, 06:52 AM
realityhack realityhack is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 663 realityhack User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)realityhack User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)realityhack User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)realityhack User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)realityhack User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)realityhack User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)realityhack User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Week 1 Day 1 h 31 m 3 sec
Reputation Power: 78
If you are doing fine business wise, and you are not going to bother trying to fix the issue. Then yes, it is an issue of you whining because of a bruised ego.
If I didn't rank any more for my top keywords in google I would be in a fit too. But it would be because of loss of revenue and I would do what was required to FIX the problem as fast as possible rather than lamenting that Merky$oft's search engine is so much better because it fluffs my ego (all it is really good for business wise).

Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old November 6th, 2009, 10:33 AM
bgbs bgbs is offline
Registered User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6 bgbs User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 h 56 m 37 sec
Reputation Power: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by realityhack
If you are doing fine business wise, and you are not going to bother trying to fix the issue. Then yes, it is an issue of you whining because of a bruised ego.
If I didn't rank any more for my top keywords in google I would be in a fit too. But it would be because of loss of revenue and I would do what was required to FIX the problem as fast as possible rather than lamenting that Merky$oft's search engine is so much better because it fluffs my ego (all it is really good for business wise).


I think google has become so big that they deviated from their original goal - that is to provide search precision, not irrelevant results based on some website keywords. Thats where, as much as you would like to trash M$, they have been doing better than google. Because I dont think when M$ ranks my page where it should be based on my industry, that they are doing something wrong, and a big google is doing something right. If you want to believe that, you may, but I refuse to think that. I'm sure that this google keyword, ranking/linking, structure is biting them in the foot right now because too many people found a way to exploit their system for their benefit whether the results come out relevant or not. Heck even Yahoo search engine puts my site on top with the specific keywords.

What you gotta ask your self is this, how did some dead beat freeware links website, that has absolutely nothing/zero/nada to do with my industry gets priority in rankings? The question is, how google even found them? Answer, because google is not about search precision anymore. Anybody can do tricks on google by running keywords, or whatever, irrelevant to their industry and appear in google search results where they shouldn't appear in the first place.

Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old November 6th, 2009, 01:33 PM
realityhack realityhack is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 663 realityhack User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)realityhack User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)realityhack User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)realityhack User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)realityhack User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)realityhack User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level)realityhack User rank is Second Lieutenant (5000 - 10000 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Week 1 Day 1 h 31 m 3 sec
Reputation Power: 78
LOL.
So that explains why almost all of Bing's market share came from Yahoo not Google and why people still default to Google for search while a larger percentage of searches on Bing and Yahoo are navigational.
Sure, Google must be about something other than search while Yahoo is oh I don't know... getting out of the market all together?

Sorry but you came to the wrong place to moan about not being ranked where you want to be while refusing to do anything about it.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Viewing: SEO Chat ForumsGoogleGoogle Optimization > Searching for my actual domain in google puts me second in search results


Thread Tools  Search this Thread 
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes  Rate This Thread 
Rate This Thread:


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
View Your Warnings | New Posts | Latest News | Latest Threads | Shoutbox
Forum Jump




 Free IT White Papers!
 
Create the Optimal Architecture for your Critical Applications
Warburton's the largest independently owned bakery in the UK faced a number of difficult challenges in providing the most robust yet efficient IT infrastructure for their organization's success. IBM's services combined with their xSeries servers created the perfect platform for their SAP environment with sufficient flexibility, and did so in very time effective fashion.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Five Best Practices for Deploying a Successful Service-Oriented Architecture
This white paper describes the benefits you can expect with SOA, and how IBM can help take your business there.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Gartner Magic Quadrant for Application Delivery Controllers
Gartner summarizes its view on Application Delivery Controllers, evaluates strengths and weaknesses of solutions, and provides Magic Quadrant reporting for a quick comparison across all vendors. Learn from Gartner how you can benefit from an all-in-one device like Citrix NetScaler that delivers the highest levels of availability, performance and security.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Knowledge is Power
What you don't know can hurt you, and is likely costing you money and increasing your security risks during an era of scarce resources. This white paper proposes six key strategies that enterprise security managers can use to improve their network defense posture.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Rationalizing the Multi-Tool Environment
The rationalized multi-tool approach is flexible, scalable and cost effective. It provides the necessary input to the IT service management business processes. It preserves prior investments in monitoring tools, empowers technologists to select the best tools with which to do their jobs, and enhances effective response to incidents.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 

Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
  
 




© 2003-2010 by Developer Shed. All rights reserved. DS Cluster 4 Hosted by Hostway
For more Enterprise Application Development news, visit eWeek