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    The Sandbox Clock Starts...


    Hi! I'm new... thanks for this great forum. I'm learning a lot through reading all these great posts. I have a question about the sandbox that I'm SURE someone will know the answer to. Sorry if this has been asked before, but I would appreciate some clarification.

    The Sandbox Clock starts to tick....

    1. When the domain is purchased? (I wish!)
    2. When you first upload content?
    3. When Google first spiders the site? (this is my guess - am i right?)

    And a related question...

    Is the sandbox relevant only for highly competitive keywords and less of a problem for less competitive searches? Our site's main KW are dominated by some major, longterm sites, but many secondary kws (most 5000 searches a mo or less on overture) have been ignored. So, I'm hoping the sandbox won't be an issue for us (much). Am I understanding things right?

    Thanks in advance for your patience with a newbie.

    Shari
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    4.) when you hit the trigger - it can be after indexing with hard on page optimization or after 1 month after hard link campagne, you need to do something to get in, this is just my opinion

    you can find all about sandbox here:
    http://www.seomoz.org/articles/google-sandbox-analysis.php

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    Yeh Bruno's right. You can have old mature sites that can slip into the SB, it's not just new sites. I believe it's a matter of trust. Obviously new sites arent known by GG so have little or no trust, so do anything that looks suspicious and you can get SB'd. But if you're very carfeul then you won't - which is why some sites seem to be able to escape the Sandbox's evil clutches.

    Anyone else notice Matt Cutt's site wasn't sandboxed for popular keywords - i wonder why....

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    Bruno, thanks for the link to that article. I can see that I was totally off base in my understanding of what causes sandboxing. I feel smarter already

    Shari
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    Originally Posted by big-bad-burrow
    You can have old mature sites that can slip into the SB, it's not just new sites.
    Any examples that weren't a redirect? Sites don't generally just fall back into the sandbox. They get moved there, but don't really fall in if you know what I mean.
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    lol, a 301 induced sandbox not satsify you?

    I'd have thought if you have an old site and you change the theme of that website drastically then you'll be sandboxed for the new theme just like it were a new site.
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    We'll find out: http://forums.seochat.com/t53222/s.html

    If G ever ends this update and figures out that the site has a new domain. So far, it's a pretty big if...

    And the causal way you threw out established sites getting sandboxed made it sound like a common occurance - which it isn't. It takes a real overhaul to get an established site back in the box.
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    And the causal way you threw out established sites getting sandboxed made it sound like a common occurance
    think you've read too much into it, I said they "can".

    Your experiment is about domain transfer, I was talking about totally changing a site's theme (without domain transfering) that would trigger all kinds of alarms at the big G and sandbox you for the new competitive keywords.
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    Like I said, it hit me as casual and I just wanted to clarify.

    Anyway, you're right about the site theme canges. I wonder what the limit is on that? I've redesigned sites from scratch that do just fine though the topics are the same. Any ideas?
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    Do you fancy "taking one for the team" again and try it on another of your other sites?
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    I have a redesign I'm finishing up right now. I've rebuilt this site 4 or 5 times over the years. This is the first time I'm doing it with SEO in mind so I'll be watching it closely. I'll definately let everyone know how it goes.

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