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    same site diff domains and content


    I have 15 domains I need to do somethng with. Im building a site that all domains will point to, but the page title, and content will change slightly based on the domain that is accessed. (basically the city name will change and graphics will be diff)

    Will the fact that the IP addy wll be the same hurt me for this?

    Will google spider see the diff title based on domain also?

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    I'm not sure you should be worrying about an IP address - I think you should be thinking more in the line of duplicate content filters...

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    • GeoffreyF67 agrees : That's correct. Just changing the title and city will definitely cause problems.
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    Ditto what Mini said.

    Duplicating a site on 15 domains with minor tweeks to the titles, and then asking if having them on the same IP is a bad idea is like shooting someone in the chest and wondering if you did something wrong by making a whole in their shirt.

    If you're lucky, only 14 of the sites will get de-indexed. If not, all 15 will.

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    so how much content should be changed? The only real difference between the sites is the city name and logos...

    If the verbage is alot different but same IP, think it would get by if I changed ALL the verbage?

    Or should I use a forwarding service and mask the domain. Im not trying to get them all indexed. Im just trying to avoid problems for later.

    Again, not trying to cheat...
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    The "white hat" solutions are:
    1. Write completely different content for each domain.
    2. Redirect all duplicate domains to 1 domain using a 301 redirect
    3. use Meta Robots tags or your robots.txt file to disallow indexing in all but 1 of the domains.

    There are lots of "black hat" solutions, but they are all "cheating" and none of them are good ideas for the long run (since you said you are plannig for "later")

    I'm sure if there are other acceptable white hat solutions, someone will add to my list.

    Good luck.
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    Originally Posted by dmoore1200
    so how much content should be changed? The only real difference between the sites is the city name and logos...

    If the verbage is alot different but same IP, think it would get by if I changed ALL the verbage?

    Or should I use a forwarding service and mask the domain. Im not trying to get them all indexed. Im just trying to avoid problems for later.

    Again, not trying to cheat...
    heres what I would do. I assume all the domains are registered by you and on the same server? If so, pay the extra $5 a month for a dedicated IP for each, either add proxy registration or if your registrant doesn't offer that, switch to one that does like registercheap.

    Now your 15 domains are each on ded IP's and your registry personal information hidden to all. proxy registration does cost around $10 a year per domain.

    Now proceed with your original plan changing graphics, titles, and add something a little different on each. Even a silly quote of the day that changes every day, you can find these for free a simple code you paste on your page. Or use a different template for each. I wouldn't go out of my way though. If you really want to play it safe, add a rss to your html page, just 3 feeds is all you need. Piece of cake!
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    Originally Posted by Bud Wiser
    Now your 15 domains are each on ded IP's and your registry personal information hidden to all. proxy registration does cost around $10 a year per domain.
    You can get it for 99 cents at registerfly

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    Originally Posted by GeoffreyF67
    You can get it for 99 cents at registerfly

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    sure now you tell me this!



    thx
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    ok..here is a better understanding of what im trying to do....I want to make sure I dont do this the wrong way... and not get in trouble later.


    The sites are pretty much the same except local to each city. They look the same and have similar content....

    The titles are diff..the logo files and alt tages are dif and the verbage is diff...but the national content is the same.

    They are all on the same server..but have assorted IP's

    what do you think? Ive tried to make the verbage different and the main page and some content does change with each domain. Its just temporary untill we find partners in the cities listed.
    Last edited by dmoore1200; Jul 3rd, 2005 at 10:58 AM.
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    Originally Posted by Bud Wiser
    sure now you tell me this!



    thx
    You can get $1.25 .info domains from them too

    Doesn't take many clicks to make back a buck twenty five!

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    Originally Posted by dmoore1200
    what do you think? Ive tried to make the verbage different and the main page and some content does change with each domain. Its just temporary untill we find partners in the cities listed.
    If you're still worried about duplicate content, try this tool:

    http://tool.motoricerca.info/similarity-analyzer.phtml

    I got it from LinkMaster Wit

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    dmoore1200,
    You've gotten a range of opinions already. And if you review the posts of those of us giving the opinions, you'll see that of of the opinions are consistent with each of our styles and experience.

    What you are doing is grey- black hat. So when you say you don't want to do it in "the wrong way", I'm not sure what you mean. If you mean that you know it is against Google guidelines and you are going to do it anyway and just want some pointers to avoid getting caught, then listen to what G-Man and Bud have to say. They have a lot of experience in this arena. They've already shared some advice here, and if you search their previous posts, you'll find much more advice from them on this sort of tactic.

    If you mean you want to avoid ANY risk of getting banned, then don't break the rules Google sets, and follow my advice. Ultimately, there is no "right" or "wrong" way to do it. There is a continuum of risk associated with different tactics. You have to decide where on that continuum you are comfortable playing. There is no full-proof, no risk method that also has mostly the same content on 15 different sites. But some of the folks here can point you towards less risky ways of doing so.
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    thanks...great tool..That helps..

    So should text similarity be less than....what % ???

    My html fingerprint will be the same..no way around that.

    And Thanks Brandall for pointing those things out.

    Dave
    Last edited by dmoore1200; Jul 2nd, 2005 at 03:24 PM.
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    Originally Posted by dmoore1200
    thanks...great tool..That helps..

    So should text similarity be less than....what % ???

    My html fingerprint will be the same..no way around that.

    And Thanks Brandall for pointing those things out.

    Dave
    To be honest, I'm not certain. I'd play with it starting around maybe 70% or so. Put up some test pages on some test domains and see if they go URLO or not (URL Only).

    Brandall, bud, wish I could give you more rep for that post. Those were some great points you made

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    Thanks G..

    I can get it down to 40% or less so it should be cool.
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