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    Thumbs up Result of a Google test.


    A few months ago I made a bunch of files with a special keyword in each file in a different way. Here's the results, with listing #1 first, then 2, then 3....

    h1, bold, underline and italics
    word.htm, meta desc and keywords
    word.html
    h3, italics and underline
    h1, bold and italics
    h1, bold and underline
    h2 and underline
    h2 and italics
    H3, bold and underline and italics
    h3, bold and underline
    h2 and bold
    word-word.htm and H1
    Unique keywords ONLY in bold tags
    h1, italics and underline
    h1 and bold
    h1 and underline
    content and meta description
    content
    H1
    word-word.html
    word.html

    I also had a URL with seven back-links on a PR 6 site and that URL didn't even get indexed. That URL got a PR of 4.

    So the ultimate optimizing may be file name, H1, bold, underline, and italics, then meta tags. The more the better. Who cares about a PR and back-links!!

    I've just strated another test to see what is best,

    key-word.html
    key_word.html
    key/word
    or
    keyword.html

    two files for each (with and with out the keywords in the link to the file.)
    Last edited by Nintendo; Aug 10th, 2004 at 11:22 PM.
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    Nintendo,

    How did you link to the pages? just curious.

    Jarrod
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    Unless the URL is part of the test, it's #.html

    domain.com/-/#.html

    It was the back-links on one site that I got Google to the main test file that links to every file but the back-links one. All the files also link back to the test page.
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    What about keyword in directory name? Does it help?
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    The next test might show that, since one for each test is the keyword in the directory.

    Searching for any of the other two special words in the files bring up 31 pages vs. 21 from the main keyword. This does show where the back-link page is in the list...

    h1, bold and underline and italics
    h3, italics and underline
    Unique keywords ONLY in bold tags
    h1, bold and italics
    h1, bold and underline
    h2 and underline
    h2 and italics
    H3, bold and underline and italics
    H4
    h3, bold and underline
    H3
    h2 and bold
    Unique keywords ONLY in H1 tags
    h1 and italics
    seven back-links on a PR 6 site ***********
    word-word.html and H1
    word_word.html and H1
    word.htm, meta desc and keywords
    word.html, H2, meta tags
    h1, italics and underline
    h1 and bold
    h1 and underline
    content and keywords
    content keywords desc
    content and meta description
    content
    meta keywords only
    meta-description
    word_word.html
    word-word.html
    word.html

    One reason some didn't show up for the main keyword was because it was only in the meta tags, and the back-link didn't show up cause that only had the word as a back-link and not in the file. So it's official, Google doesn't look at meta tags if it's not a framed page, er didn't we allready know that?!

    I'm also working on a much bigger test, a 90 file test, 10 different tests for each of the kinds of files...

    h1
    h1 and content
    h1, bold, and content
    h1, italics, and content
    h1, underline, and content
    h1, bold, underline, and content
    h1, bold, italics, and content
    h1, italics, underline, and content
    h1, bold, and underline, italics, and content

    then the results can be compaired with each other.
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    More test results are in.....

    10 H1 tests.

    Only thing that didn't change a lot here was
    H1, Bold, underline, italics, and Content is #1 in all but one of the tests.


    H1, Bold, underline, italics, and Content
    H1 and content
    Content
    H1, Underlined, and Content
    H1, Bold, Italics, and Content
    H1, Bold, and Content
    H1, Underline, Italics, and Content
    H1, Bold, Underlined, and Content

    H1, Bold, underline, italics, and Content
    H1, Bold, and Content
    Content
    H1, Italics, and Content
    H1 and content
    H1, Bold, Italics, and Content
    H1, Underlined, and Content
    H1, Underline, Italics, and Content
    H1, Bold, Underlined, and Content

    H1, Bold, underline, italics, and Content
    H1, Bold, and Content
    H1, Underline, Italics, and Content
    H1, Bold, Underlined, and Content
    H1, Bold, Italics, and Content
    H1, Italics, and Content
    H1, Underlined, and Content
    H1 and content
    Content

    H1, Bold, and Content
    H1, Italics, and Content
    H1, Underline, Italics, and Content
    H1 and content
    H1, Bold, Underlined, and Content
    H1, Bold, Italics, and Content
    H1, Underlined, and Content
    Content

    H1, Bold, underline, italics, and Content
    H1, Underlined, and Content
    H1, Underline, Italics, and Content
    H1, Italics, and Content
    Content
    H1, Bold, Underlined, and Content
    H1, Bold, Italics, and Content
    H1, Bold, and Content
    H1 and content

    H1, Bold, underline, italics, and Content
    H1, Bold, and Content
    Content
    H1, Bold, Italics, and Content
    H1, Bold, Underlined, and Content
    H1, Italics, and Content
    H1, Underline, Italics, and Content
    H1, Underlined, and Content
    H1 and content

    H1, Bold, underline, italics, and Content
    H1, Bold, and Content
    H1, Bold, Italics, and Content
    H1, Bold, Underlined, and Content
    H1, Underlined, and Content
    H1, Underline, Italics, and Content
    Content
    H1, Italics, and Content
    H1 and content

    H1, Bold, underline, italics, and Content
    H1, Bold, and Content
    H1, Underline, Italics, and Content
    H1, Bold, Underlined, and Content
    H1, Underlined, and Content
    Content
    H1, Italics, and Content
    H1, Bold, Italics, and Content
    H1 and content

    H1, Bold, underline, italics, and Content
    H1, Underlined, and Content
    H1, Bold, and Content
    Content
    H1 and content
    H1, Bold, Underlined, and Content
    H1, Underline, Italics, and Content
    H1, Bold, Italics, and Content
    H1, Italics, and Content

    H1, Bold, underline, italics, and Content
    Content
    H1, Bold, and Content
    H1, Bold, Underlined, and Content
    H1 and content
    H1, Italics, and Content
    H1, Underline, Italics, and Content
    H1, Underlined, and Content
    H1, Bold, Italics, and Content

    Keyword in URL test. (I think I'll make some more of these tests.)

    key/word
    key_word.shtml
    keyword.shtml
    key-word.shtml

    key/word
    key_word.shtml
    key-word.shtml
    keyword.shtml
    In text linking to page.

    Keyword in alt test and H1.

    <img SRC="URL" alt="keyword">

    The keyword in alt does not get indexed by Google. 20 files were indexed and the keyword did not show up in the search, with or with out the <H1> before and after the image.
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    Nintendo, I really like your tests because are the best serious research about the Google algo that I know (and you give it for free! Thanks.)

    By the way, your tests are the "scientific" probation of something that most of us "believe" (faith or self experience): most search engines works fine with good content, appropriate HTML tags and good inner linkage.

    There is something I don't understand: when you talk about content, are you talking about merge the keywords in one or two paragraphs?
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    do you have more detail on how the page is contructed ?

    eg your test:H1, Bold, underline, italics, and Content

    would it be :

    <h1>keyword</h1>
    <u>keyword</u>
    <i>keyword</i>
    <p>keyword</p>

    or do you have additional words around these at all ?
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    key and word


    first of all: i also appreciate your test very much!!!!!! good work.

    i'm just wondering whether key and word are two differet keywords:

    Originally Posted by Nintendo
    key/word
    key_word.shtml
    keyword.shtml
    key-word.shtml

    regards,
    Daniel
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    Hi - Good Work!
    I am planning a similar test myself on the effectiveness of PR.
    Would you like to publish the URL and keyword so that we may have a look.

    Thanks very much - this is very interesting.
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    Here's an example. If I ever stop making new tests then I'll post the URL! I think I'll add the keyword to the title on the next round of tests.

    <html><head><title>H1, Bold, underline, italics, and Content</title>
    </head><body>
    <h1><b><i><u>***KEYWORD***</h1></b></i></u>
    <p>
    CONTENT
    <a HREF="http://www.URL.com/-/">Back</a>
    </body></html>
    Last edited by Nintendo; Aug 31st, 2004 at 12:12 PM.

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