Page 2 - Reasons a term is not on Google Suggest?

My guess would be that no one searches for it...

Just because you think something is popular, the suggest tool works from first letters that you start typing, so your keyword is probably not searched for very often.

Wait, if it's basically down to search frequency, does that mean I can attach a robot to my keyboard to search for the desired term five thousand times a day in order to make it appear on Google Suggest? Is it really as simple as that?

It may be true that a term is less popular than I think, but I have compared terms on Google Trends and Google Insights, and some terms which were searched for significantly less were present and are still present on Google Suggest, while some terms that were searched for significantly more have either never appeared on Google Suggest or have appeared and then disappeared.

How can you explain that? ;)

Bump...

Sure, that might work if you can develop a bot that's smarter than GOOGLE. Good luck with that.

The bottom line is that the suggestions are just an added feature to the search, there's no reason to over-analyze it.

What you should do is scrap your kw that no-one searches for and go for one that is a suggestion if you care that much.

Is your keyword a suggestion on Yahoo &/or Bing?

No, I meant a physical robot that types into the keyboard the KW several thousand times per day on Google, therefore effectively searching for the KW several thousand times per day on Google. My motivation in presenting this scenario was to accompany it with the following question addressed to all of those who claim that Suggest rankings are basically down to search frequency: is getting top rankings on Google Suggest really as simple as searching for a keyword via one location several thousand times per day?

And my research has suggested that this is not the case, as I have evidence of terms which appear on Google Suggest which have been searched significantly less than terms which do not appear on Google Suggest over roughly the same extended period of time.


Yes, one of the KW is a suggestion on Bing, but not on Google.

My point was that Google's suggest tool could figure it easily that it was a bot.

Ah, so you're implying that Google DOES penalize constant searches for a given term from the same IP/location.

Wow, based on the responses here and elsewhere, I was beginning to think I was mostly alone on this....

I'm guessing we agree that the algorithm is based partly on IP address and/or geographical location where the searches were conducted?

I doubt they "penalize" but they can filter data that is bot generated so it doesn't skew the results, suggestions etc. They have a pretty advanced machine for this with adwords so people can't manipulate quality scores and what not, so I'm sure they can tell automated search queries in any form.

Local searches have been a big thing for a while, they even show number of searches for local results in their kw tool.

In a sense then, they do penalize because they filter data that would otherwise not have been filtered.

An evident issue here is Google confusing a bot with genuine searches. You can't rule out that there may be 10 genuine searches for a term from individuals searching at 1 IP address. Google may label it as a "bot" when it's really not!

There is a BIG difference between a "penalty" and a "filter" in terms of SEO. The main example is the duplicate content "filter" does not penalize the site, or the dup content, but instead filters out the dup content. In your example you can't "penalize" a keyword as there is nothing to penalize, they MAY just simply filter out bot generated searches, clicks etc. from any algo's they run.