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Old February 8th, 2010, 12:10 PM
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Penalized site re-included for 24 hours, then removed. Any thoughts?

This would have to be one of the most frustrating weekends of my life.

My site has been penalized since November for something very simple. Re-inclusion requests have been filed admitting my mistake.

Saturday night at 6pm PST, everything came back to normal. All serps from pre-penalty were there. Shortly after the Super Bowl, approximately 24 hours after they showed up - they vanished again and the results are identical to the penalty results I've seen for the last 2.5 months.

During this 24 hour window, all data centers showed the pre-penalty results... caffeine even showed better results.

Why would google do this to someone? Don't they understand that emotions are involved? Highs and lows like this are very unhealthy.

Has anyone seen behavior like this? Any observations you can offer?

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Old February 8th, 2010, 12:34 PM
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what kind of penalty did you have? and what did you do?

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Old February 8th, 2010, 12:47 PM
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what kind of penalty did you have? and what did you do?



I traded with too many blogs too quickly. This was remedied of course and everything is clean now.

It's the type of penalty that still shows "domain" and "domain.com" as the number 1 results. I also still get a very small amount of traffic from google. 90% lower than pre-penalty.

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Old February 8th, 2010, 12:57 PM
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I traded with too many blogs too quickly. This was remedied of course and everything is clean now.

It's the type of penalty that still shows "domain" and "domain.com" as the number 1 results. I also still get a very small amount of traffic from google. 90% lower than pre-penalty.


so why should it rank?

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Old February 8th, 2010, 01:05 PM
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so why should it rank?


Sorry, I should have mentioned this in the beginning.

My site is a 13 year old authority that has always ranked very favorably with google. I dropped 90% of my traffic with this penalty.

When things came back for 24 hours... all of my traffic came back.

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Old February 9th, 2010, 03:48 AM
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I have almost the same experience

Almost the same experience but in my case, it's not google but hubpages. I'm actually making blogs on most web 2.0 sites because these sites have high reputation w/ google. What happen is they banned my blogs, all of my blogs was banned and they didn't published it anymore. I feel so frustrated because one of my blogs there have earned PR in only a couple of months upon publishing it.

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Old February 9th, 2010, 05:22 AM
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@hcom, how can you be sure that quick link exchanges caused the penalty since your site is "down" again ?

I'm unfortunately passing through exact same situation and its FRUSTRATING !

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Old February 9th, 2010, 06:27 AM
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Google has the power and the rights. Google can destroy your business after a valid spam report. You knew this beforehand.

If you know of this risk, you should calculate it in your online strategy, and know that one day your site could be managed by 20 paid employees and the other day, you are with a site with no traffic and 20 mouths to feed.

Nobody should really have this amount of power, but we all knew it, and build our business on the same strength and dominance of Google, we sometimes dispise. Google does not care about your emotions, Google cares about providing quality search results.

3 things that could have influenced your bouncy behaviour:

- The trust and age of domain is resetted after spam penalty
- You changed a lot of links, creating a newer less varried link profile.
- Google put your site back for 24 hours, and found less positive user stats. Removing your site from the index gave them the opportunity for a clear split test and see which results offer the most quality. Now Google just does not like your site anymore, regardless of previous spammy behaviour, other sites could give better quality results.
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Did you exchange links or just got one way inbounds? Google cant penalize you for inbound links only so matter how and where you are getting those. If it did then I would buy loads of spammy links for my competitors and get them banned? it doesnt work that way. If you exchanged links then it could be a problem when you put outbound links from your site to well known spammy sites.

Anyway, try to remove all bad links from your website and remove any hidden links or text you may have used on your website...and hope for the best. Check for duplicate content and all other things you've been trying to optimize it.

But are you sure your site is banned? how did you check it?

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Google cant penalize you for inbound links only so matter how and where you are getting those.

Really? The law protects you here? It does seem in direct violation of the search engine netizen article 26a from 1926.
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If it did then I would buy loads of spammy links for my competitors and get them banned? it doesnt work that way.

It does. Buy me lots of spammy links please. Or buy them for yourselves and then say I did it, because I am a rich bastard.

Really sir: I swear you I dont know were those paid links came from! And you did not even read me my miranda rights! You can't do this. I didn't murder my mother in law, I was set up by someone who hired a killer to murder my mother in law and put it on me. It wasn't me. You can't suspect me. Yeah I just butchered a kitten, that blood on my hands says nothing about the facts!

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Really? The law protects you here? It does seem in direct violation of the search engine netizen article 26a from 1926.

It does. Buy me lots of spammy links please. Or buy them for yourselves and then say I did it, because I am a rich bastard.

Really sir: I swear you I dont know were those paid links came from! And you did not even read me my miranda rights! You can't do this. I didn't murder my mother in law, I was set up by someone who hired a killer to murder my mother in law and put it on me. It wasn't me. You can't suspect me. Yeah I just butchered a kitten, that blood on my hands says nothing about the facts!


You are so ignorant boy? LOL Have you done any experiments that suggest inbound one way links will harm your rankings? do you have any proof of that? probably NOT?

FYI: You dont control other people's websites, they could write whatever they want about your site and link to it, you cant stop them. Why would Google ban you for something you have absolutely no control of?

Yes if you buy links and if its obvious that you paid for those links just to manipulate SERPs then you might get penalized but that too is very difficult for a bot to know.

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Yes if you buy links and if its obvious that you paid for those links just to manipulate SERPs then you might get penalized but that too is very difficult for a bot to know.


Spam reports are looked at by humans, not bots. The reports I send are accurate and complete and my success rate in getting linktards and SERP flooders removed is very high. Sometimes I report non-competitors, just for fun.

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Spam reports are looked at by humans, not bots. The reports I send are accurate and complete and my success rate in getting linktards and SERP flooders removed is very high. Sometimes I report non-competitors, just for fun.


What does that has anything to do with the original topic? LOL

You didnt answer my question? do you control the content on other people's websites? LOL...

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What does that has anything to do with the original topic? LOL

You didnt answer my question? do you control the content on other people's websites? LOL...


I was replying to the comment I quoted. No I do not control the content on other people's websites.

I understand people will have a hard time accepting the notion that off site SEO could harm you. I am not willing to bet the farm that we're there...yet, but I do find it curious that more and more linksters are dropping out of sight, and Google apparently tells you what to do if you have been busted gaining crap links.
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