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Old July 1st, 2009, 09:03 AM
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Paid directories and Articles.

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I have run my site though various backlinkcheckers and although I have quite a lot of backlinks not many come from high PR sites. I employed a high profile SEO company in the UK too so I was a little surprised.

So I am thinking about allocating some extra budget for basically buying maybe 6 or 7 high PR backlinks from paid directories and also submitting an initial batch of 10 articles to sites such as Ezine. I have seen various people will write the articles for me for a nominal fee.

Is this a worthwhile SEO tactic?

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I find artcile writing is very good long tale terms, towards inner pages, but will not do the business for terms more challenging.

It does make nice chaff to hide th big stuff that you do though.

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Hi Guys,

I have run my site though various backlinkcheckers and although I have quite a lot of backlinks not many come from high PR sites. I employed a high profile SEO company in the UK too so I was a little surprised.

So I am thinking about allocating some extra budget for basically buying maybe 6 or 7 high PR backlinks from paid directories and also submitting an initial batch of 10 articles to sites such as Ezine. I have seen various people will write the articles for me for a nominal fee.

Is this a worthwhile SEO tactic?

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Hi Guys,

I have run my site though various backlinkcheckers and although I have quite a lot of backlinks not many come from high PR sites. I employed a high profile SEO company in the UK too so I was a little surprised.

So I am thinking about allocating some extra budget for basically buying maybe 6 or 7 high PR backlinks from paid directories and also submitting an initial batch of 10 articles to sites such as Ezine. I have seen various people will write the articles for me for a nominal fee.

Is this a worthwhile SEO tactic?
Google doesn't like paid links, especially those meant solely to pass PR. My suggestion - forget about your PR and focus on what matters - getting quality traffic.

Ezine articles has a great scheme, don't they? They set up a site, claim that you can submit your articles and benefit from them, get a bunch of people to write content for them (for free), sell advertising on their site, make money and don't do a bit of work.... While I find their site is quite useless, it's creators are geniuses, taking advantage of the less competent.

Article submission sites are generally not worth much. If you want to do something useful with articles, write good ones and post them on your own site. Hopefully it will attract links that will actually help you, instead of worthless ones from an article syndication site that duplicates all your content.
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I would opt in for creation of many articles and instead of posting them on ezinearticles, i would post them to wordpress multiuser blogs. this can get me links from different ips.

i would schedule the posts on blogspot for delayed publication (Daily ) + ask bloggers in my niche to write a review post about me with a link (for some $$).

i would also add link of site in all forum signatures + do some comment postings daily.
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I would opt in for creation of many articles and instead of posting them on ezinearticles, i would post them to wordpress multiuser blogs. this can get me links from different ips.

i would schedule the posts on blogspot for delayed publication (Daily ) + ask bloggers in my niche to write a review post about me with a link (for some $$).

i would also add link of site in all forum signatures + do some comment postings daily.
Very rapidly posting crap advice will catch you a lot of flack.

Posting to wordpress multiuser blogs? You'd still be giving away your content for free, and to a blog where the link you MAY OR MAY NOT GET would be worth crap? Find a better use of your time.

if you ask bloggers to review and post about you with a link, then you're paying for links. Paid links are devalued by Google, and once reported, will be nothing more than a waste of money.

Links coming from blog posts get buried, especially on regularly updated blogs, therefore your links will quickly be worth nothing.

Forum signature links get you hardly anywhere. They, too, are worth next to nothing.

All of these tactics you mentioned will be worth nothing more than the direct traffic they offer. They will not help your SEO campaign unless that traffic decides to link to you.

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Very rapidly posting crap advice will catch you a lot of flack.

Posting to wordpress multiuser blogs? You'd still be giving away your content for free, and to a blog where the link you MAY OR MAY NOT GET would be worth crap? Find a better use of your time.

if you ask bloggers to review and post about you with a link, then you're paying for links. Paid links are devalued by Google, and once reported, will be nothing more than a waste of money.

Links coming from blog posts get buried, especially on regularly updated blogs, therefore your links will quickly be worth nothing.

Forum signature links get you hardly anywhere. They, too, are worth next to nothing.

All of these tactics you mentioned will be worth nothing more than the direct traffic they offer. They will not help your SEO campaign unless that traffic decides to link to you.


lols, I do this technique and many of my websites are on Top 10 at Google for very competiting keywords...

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lols, I do this technique and many of my websites are on Top 10 at Google for very competiting keywords...


every SEO has its own way of working. Some SEOs dont do article submission, some prefer.

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Paid links are devalued by Google, and once reported, will be nothing more than a waste of money.


paid links will get devalued or reported only when someone will find them in the first place I have bought links straight from the home page of authority sites. Years have passed away and they are still not devalued. Even if i tell u the website name and the exact link position, u can't do anything to devalue that link. How u will prove that its a paid link. I say it is just a plain outbound text link which a webmaster has put it on its own free will. Moreover any smart SEO will never buy links from those sites which buy/sell links openly or which are heavily into link purchase. I just feel like updating you on this. So no offense.

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paid links will get devalued or reported only when someone will find them in the first place I have bought links straight from the home page of authority sites. Years have passed away and they are still not devalued. Even if i tell u the website name and the exact link position, u can't do anything to devalue that link. How u will prove that its a paid link. I say it is just a plain outbound text link which a webmaster has put it on its own free will. Moreover any smart SEO will never buy links from those sites which buy/sell links openly or which are heavily into link purchase. I just feel like updating you on this. So no offense.
None taken. I have some myself. But bloggers that blog for money are generally found out pretty easily to be doing so.

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I personally do choose to purchase some directory submissions. Yahoo directory in my opinion is worth the money, especially if you are a new site. I have a couple more directories i suggest in the link in my signature.

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just thought I'd add that we dont' use this tactic......ever! our content is on our client's sites only....and the authoritative/trust backlinks we get points to our URLs....

great comment tho by jsteele above....nice biz model by the ezine founders!



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I have run my site though various backlinkcheckers and although I have quite a lot of backlinks not many come from high PR sites. I employed a high profile SEO company in the UK too so I was a little surprised.

So I am thinking about allocating some extra budget for basically buying maybe 6 or 7 high PR backlinks from paid directories and also submitting an initial batch of 10 articles to sites such as Ezine. I have seen various people will write the articles for me for a nominal fee.

Is this a worthwhile SEO tactic?


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First up I would recommend that you ditch your current SEO. It staggers me to think that you have paid good money for this and yet are having to post asking for advice on this forum. Whatever they are doing for you is not enough. The fact that you are here talking to us would be ample evidence of this.

Second, if you buy links you will likely see little positive impact on your rankings. Any paid links that are readily available for all will in all probability be from sites that have received the full scrutiny of big G!

Third, creating content and writing articles is the best thing that you can do for your site. If the quality is good enough then it will generate visitors and attract links. The worst thing you can do for your site however is to give this content away to allow someone else to benefit from it.

You need to spend some time looking at your competition. Where do they get links from? what content is attracting those links? and most importantly, how can you create better content that will steal these links from your competition.

Stop thinking where can I find links? and, start thinking how can I attract them? they are two very different things

<edit>also PR won't directly effect your rankings for a particular term so stop looking at links in terms of their PR. Get links from related trusted sites.</edit>
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i think so of paying for directories you should use free directories they will help you lot if you buy the links and you doesnot renew the website links it may help you to fall down

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i think so of paying for directories you should use free directories they will help you lot if you buy the links and you doesnot renew the website links it may help you to fall down
Not exactly sure what you said, but I bet it's wrong.
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Not exactly sure what you said, but I bet it's wrong.

jsteele823 do get his point what he is saying here and I have gone his maximum of the posts I noted only one thing he is just improving his posts I think he is very aggressive for add his signature link here........
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