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Old July 16th, 2008, 08:57 AM
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For years, I've been helping people in SEO,I came across this problem I dont really understand why. Here are the details>

a. Site is indexed , currently not blocked in robots.txt or meta no index.
b. The homepage is fully cached and indexed.
c. There are substantial internal links pointing to the homepage.
d. There are substantial inbound links to the homepage.
e. No presence of spam in any form on the homepage (confirmed). Also no violation against Google guidelines.
f. The site has genuine content, and not duplicated across the site pages , internal pages and in the internet.
g. No mirror domains
h. The domain name came first when I type in the search box.

Here is the issue, when I copy paste a certain and very unique phrases of content on the homepage to Google search box (this phrases is cached by Google), Google does not found this block of text in its index.

I tried another block of text (around 4 -10 words), and Google does not return a result "No results found for "This is a sample text".

The odd thing is that, I do this for other pages in the site, and it returns a result. But not the homepage.

Also I type the whole phrase of homepage title tag but it does not return the homepage as the result in Google (it gives the result in other pages containing those keywords).

This seems mysterious to me.Any thoughts or ideas on this?
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Old July 16th, 2008, 09:21 AM
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Could be that a piece of coding or a script is messing up google crawling the websites content?

Can you post the url?

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Old July 16th, 2008, 09:29 AM
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Could be that a piece of coding or a script is messing up google crawling the websites content?

Can you post the url?


Possibly but I checked Google cached text and those text are there. But those text when I copy paste in Google search box. Google does not find that blocks of text in their index.

I just PM the URL. Thanks mate.

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hmm very odd... Just a few obsivations: you have quite alot of keyword spamming around the page (think its alt tags) when you go to the cached text.

Also you need to 301 redirect the http:// to http://www. and the /index.php to /.

Other then that it does see all the text, but for some reason google just doesnt feel you should rank for it... hmmm very odd.
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Old July 16th, 2008, 09:50 AM
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hmm very odd... Just a few obsivations: you have quite alot of keyword spamming around the page (think its alt tags) when you go to the cached text.

Also you need to 301 redirect the http:// to http://www. and the /index.php to /.

Other then that it does see all the text, but for some reason google just doesnt feel you should rank for it... hmmm very odd.


Thanks for that, yes I think about that one too. The only question is why even though a certain unique text in the homepage content (such as 4-8 words unique phrases) won't return in search results. This is really odd.

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Thanks for that, yes I think about that one too. The only question is why even though a certain unique text in the homepage content (such as 4-8 words unique phrases) won't return in search results. This is really odd.


Odd indeed. It is searching for exact match, you should be there, even supplemental results show up for exact match searches.

The only time I have ever seen this is when either a. the phrase is too long b. there are partial words at either the beginning or end of the phrase and it looks like you covered those avenues
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think i found something: <meta http-equiv="Cache-Control" content="no-cache" />

This is only on the homepage, no others. Google has got a cache of the page, so what is this doing?

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We have the same issue!! also our ranks dropped massive but other pages stayd the same?? Pieces of content from dropped pages cant be found anymore but from the topranked ones can??

Dropped pages are still indexed so cant be that...

What is going on?

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think i found something: <meta http-equiv="Cache-Control" content="no-cache" />

This is only on the homepage, no others. Google has got a cache of the page, so what is this doing?


Actually is on every page, but it is still showing a cache.

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I have actually come accross a Google Chacing error recently and have not yet got to the bottom of it.

Please PM me the URL so I can check it out.

When you search for a block of text that is on the page and Google returns the relevant result, look at the cache and then the highlighted keywords. Are the words that are highlighted correct?

I have seen a problem recently with this being an issue and think this could be your problem.
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Has the content on this page changed recently (last 30 -40 days)?


Nope, the page has been steady more than that time, and Google pickup perfectly the text content on the homepage because I can see it through cache.

The problem though is when I copy paste a block of text in Google search box, the Google seems not find the exact match of that text, even using this type of query:


"This is a test of text from the homepage"

I mean with qoutes. It also does not return exactly without quotes.

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have you run the page through copyscape?


Yes, at first I though this was just filtered in Google due to some duplicate issues but I run the URL through copyscape. It does not found blocks of duplicate content in the internet.

"No copies of this page were found" as the result.

This is strange indeed.

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I have actually come accross a Google Chacing error recently and have not yet got to the bottom of it.

Please PM me the URL so I can check it out.

When you search for a block of text that is on the page and Google returns the relevant result, look at the cache and then the highlighted keywords. Are the words that are highlighted correct?

I have seen a problem recently with this being an issue and think this could be your problem.


It does not return relevant results at all, and I cannot check the highlighted cached because it does not return..

FOr example:

No results found for "This should come as no surprise when you consider how the correct".

By the way, thanks for the reply mate, I just PM you the URL.

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