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    I pulled this as this statement is not correct as of yet, search "Bioplex Nutrition" in Google Top sites on the search

    www bulknutrition.com/m161_Bioplex_Nutrition html
    www goendurance.com/m161_Bioplex_Nutrition.html
    www beyondmuscle.com/m161_Bioplex_Nutrition.html

    Notice anything??? all these site are linked using hidden css text links they are still in good standing on the jagger2 datacenter as well. This article isn't correct the Google search has more spam right now than ever before. I am intrested in the 3rd update as this is just too much. They are blocking looking at source code so download the page or if you want some really good hidden crap go to their front page

    "Google also made it clear that they dislike invisible text. Google’s Matt Cutts was quoted as saying, “I don’t recommend that people use CSS to hide text.” Unscrupulous companies that use invisible text to spam their way to the top of the rankings were hit hard with this recent update. It is clear that Google is taking a stance against spammers and unethical SEO practices."
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    I was reading this thread and just realized one thing. The well known motto "Don't put all your egs in a single basket" in the finance world is more than correct and in SEO world.

    So don't rely only on a single strategy nomatter which one is that (reciprocal links, directory submission, one way links, in page optimization, etc) because you can't know what updates will be in place at the next update and how hard your site may be hit.

    But a well-rounded and banaced site will compe upe every time, no matter what the changes are. Maybe it won't grant you #1 placement but it should keep you on the first page anytime, no matter what.


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    Originally Posted by bwn
    "Unscrupulous companies that use invisible text to spam their way to the top of the rankings were hit hard with this recent update."
    Sounds like Google's bark is worse than its bite.
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    yep

    Originally Posted by expat
    Sounds like Google's bark is worse than its bite.
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    Originally Posted by bwn
    yep
    Posts like this should be made in rep rather than bothering to post a "yep." I mean one liners are one thing but one worders? That's stretching it.

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    Originally Posted by WeRASkitzzo
    Um there are TONS of threads and articles out there talking about how to gain links and if you don't think natural links are the best then I have to disagree with you on that. It may not be EASY to get a ton of natural links, but those are most definitely the best ones to have.
    Yes, and I've read most of them. What about sites that compete for very uncompetitive terms that can't get articles published, directories don't have categories for, etc.? My point is, it's taking more and more technical knowledge of SEO to succeed on the web. Shouldn't we be making it easier and easier to do this for people that are experts in their field and not an expert in THIS field? I realize SEO companies don't want to hear this, but technology should make things easier and cheaper.

    Originally Posted by WeRASkitzzo
    Isn't this kind of like all the inmates saying "I'm innocent"? I mean don't we all think that our content is best and our page deserves to rank higher? In the end, its only G's opinion of our site that matters in the SERPs.
    Some inmates are innocent. Some have spent years in the slammer before technology was introduced that could free them. I wonder if small web sites are in the same position.

    Like I said though, I'm going to hold off making any assumptions until Jagger3 goes into full effect. There's not much use to speculate until then.
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    Looks like more real estate sites are dropping off the cliff on Jagger 2.
    Dosn't look good for Google.
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    I look after www.villacontact.com

    real estate ibiza
    house for sale ibiza
    finca for sale ibiza
    villa for sale ibiza

    and it has all results still on the first page of Google.
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    My real estate sites are improving, def no fall in serps.

    I have never aggressively sought recip links to these sites.
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    I have never aggressively sought recip links to these sites.
    The site I mention above has not one single out bound link

    edit: apart from my website design site.
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    We run 2 real estate property investment publications, the sites have remained steady during the Jagger2 update gaining a few positions here and there but no major shakes either way, the differnce if any between our sites and many real estate sites is primarily in that we do not use any recip linking programs, the large majority of our links are 1 way the majority of them have been gained naturally where people have linked to our guides, faqs etc.

    IMO I tend to think this isn't an attack on real estate sites per se , more on a paticular method of SEO that is very common among the real estate industry, massive recip linking.
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    Originally Posted by Hawaii
    Looks like more real estate sites are dropping off the cliff on Jagger 2.
    Dosn't look good for Google.
    Lmao..

    Hawaii why do continue to say ridiculous statments like this?

    If its not looking ''good'' for anyone, I can assure you its the real estate sites that have been dropped - not Google.

    Hilerious

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    I just checked our rankings and it appears that Jagger Jr. is being kind to us. Our site (real estate niche) has gained across the board. Our rankings finally match our allins which is nice. Like Andy's sites, we do not exchange links at all and in fact only have a few outbound links. Not sure if that is the reason we are moving up but its definitely something that sets us apart from most RE related sites.
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    Originally Posted by Andy1664
    We run 2 real estate property investment publications, the sites have remained steady during the Jagger2 update gaining a few positions here and there but no major shakes either way, the differnce if any between our sites and many real estate sites is primarily in that we do not use any recip linking programs, the large majority of our links are 1 way the majority of them have been gained naturally where people have linked to our guides, faqs etc.

    IMO I tend to think this isn't an attack on real estate sites per se , more on a paticular method of SEO that is very common among the real estate industry, massive recip linking.
    We never said that Google attacked real estate sites in particular, but I have noticed that thoses who reciprocated whith thousands of non relevant sites in less than 3 or 4 months with add-url software have def been damaged. I took the real estate example to illustrate my opinion, because I know this industry, but I'm sure than the other big "reciprokers" like drugs, porn, casinos sites have been hurted by that update. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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