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Old January 23rd, 2007, 11:35 PM
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Is www.ripfast.com banned?

Hello friends,

We just took up a job to SEO www.ripfast.com . To our dismay the site is not showing on the SERP's of google for the keyword "ripfast" . Also I understand that the home page is not indexed by google

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripfast.com%2Findex.php

We have finished submitting the site manually to 300 directories focusing the keyword "ripfast" but it doesn't show up.

Any help is appreciated.

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Old January 23rd, 2007, 11:52 PM
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I don't think the site is banned.

1- The site does come up when querying Ripfast in Google.

2- A lot of supplemental results though. Is your content copied?

3- Submitting to 300 directories is fine, but don't expect results just from that. Links from those directories have very little value and Google takes forever to find those links, so it takes a long time for the tiny little benefit to filter through.

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Old January 24th, 2007, 12:08 AM
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Thanks

Thank you for the advice.. But still why is the index page not cached.. We have done several diectory submissions for other sites which shows up in the SERPS within a couple of weeks..

Thats what I am worried about.

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Old January 24th, 2007, 12:10 AM
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Forgot to add..

Actually we are concentrating on the main site www.ripfast.com , Only www.ripfast.eu turns up for the search for ripfast . And no it is not copied content , the site is about 5 years old and had a PR of 6 in 2005.

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Thank you for the advice.. But still why is the index page not cached.. We have done several diectory submissions for other sites which shows up in the SERPS within a couple of weeks..
Thats what I am worried about.


Yes it is cached: http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:jGqyXwrxelkJ:www.ripfast.com/+&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

If you've had quick success with directory submissions in the past, you must have been working with relatively easy search terms.

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.com.au and .org also show up.

Is the content the same for .eu, .com. .org etc.?

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Hi,

I can see the index page cached there:
http://72.14.235.104/search?q=cache:jGqyXwrxelkJ:www.ripfast.com/+&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1

Check the link above, moreover all the domains are visible, including, .au, .eu. etc..

So no worries, get more of relevant links to your website, an u may show up on top..

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Thanks again Raz..

Yes, the content is the same for all the sites.. They are just multiple domains pointing to the same site.. You may be right, earlier we had submitted Sites with a relatively less competitive keyword..

What is most annoying is that one of the competitors who have published some filth about ripfast is coming on top for the search for "ripfast" . BTW I dont see ripfast.com anywhere in the searches..

I have attached my search results and I find the competitor page at the 3rd position..

Thank you for having a look
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Yes, the content is the same for all the sites.. They are just multiple domains pointing to the same site.. You may be right, earlier we had submitted Sites with a relatively less competitive keyword..

What is most annoying is that one of the competitors who have published some filth about ripfast is coming on top for the search for "ripfast" . BTW I dont see ripfast.com anywhere in the searches..

I have attached my search results and I find the competitor page at the 3rd position..

Thank you for having a look
Nothing personal.. But i just read that 'filth'. If its not true why is your company not taking legal action. ie injunction etc.

Because i will almost centanly guarantee that article will absolutley hurt your potential website sales.... Comming number one is not going to stop people reading that articel is stands out.
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Nothing personal.. But i just read that 'filth'. If its not true why is your company not taking legal action. ie injunction etc.

Because i will almost centanly guarantee that article will absolutley hurt your potential website sales.... Comming number one is not going to stop people reading that articel is stands out.


He's not the company... personally I would walk away from them.

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They are our clients..

Well, its a client of ours. My client thinks that legal action is not possible for every case(Time consuming ) and it is better to have the pages related to the site on the SERPS.

I appreciate all your help and thanks for that.. Have any of you faced such situations? Yesterday I happened to see a project at Guru.com with the same problem.. Wondering if I should write to google

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Well, its a client of ours. My client thinks that legal action is not possible for every case(Time consuming ) and it is better to have the pages related to the site on the SERPS.

I appreciate all your help and thanks for that.. Have any of you faced such situations? Yesterday I happened to see a project at Guru.com with the same problem.. Wondering if I should write to google


Just because they are a paying client does not mean they are being truthful about their business dealings.

Legal action tends not to be time consuming nor expensive when you are on the right side of things... when you are on the wrong side - the person tends to make excuses.

Nonetheless any client not serious about their visible reputation - you should drop them like a rock [or advise them to clean up their mess].

A SEO stuck in a client's mess will ALWAYS be a SEO with a poor reference because they couldn't compete against the client's negativity.
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We have finished submitting the site manually to 300 directories focusing the keyword "ripfast" but it doesn't show up.



The fact that your submitting a site makes me wonder how you got the job in the first place.

Underbidding real SEM's or stupidity on ripfasts part?

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You may actually find that the original problem your post was about has something to do with the issue. Complaimants may have been laid against this compnay. It may be possible that they are facing some type of penalty. They are pretty serious allagations being made against them. If the company does not wish to do anything about them I think you will face an uphill battle.

I am personally not taking moral stand here i just think that promoting this site is going to be evry difficult if it has a bad name already. Who is going to give you a link when they see such bad press. Once again gulit by assocaiation .. Their site may be considered to be on the path to being a bad neighbourhood.

If it was me I would investigate those alligations a bit more and either a) follow fathom advice and ditch them
b) charge heaps more money to promote them and go the bying links path
c) advise them to change their name and promote ther product under their rebranded name
d) tell them if they are not willing to do any of the above then it is going to be a long time before they see significant traffic from the name they wish you to promote.

These problems will be even greater if that consumer advice site is actively promoting negative stuff about that company.

You should ask them to tell you exactly the situation so you know how to move forward

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The fact that your submitting a site makes me wonder how you got the job in the first place.

Underbidding real SEM's or stupidity on ripfasts part?


Hello Garry,

Well if you think I am expecting a keyword to top the SERPS by merely submitting to some directories then you are mistaken. I have immense experience in SEO and not a fool to think that a submission will get my keywords to the top.

In this case..

the keyword is the domain name itself "ripfast" which had a PR of 6 two years back when we promoted it. The client had then stopped our services and where doing it themselves. When it had dropped to 0 they have come to us again.

We have submitted more than 2000 sites and we always check the results by providing the entire description on google searching for exact phrase. Atleast we will get about 5-15 links for every 100 submissions. In this case of ripfast we are not able to get even a single one.

I had never mentioned in my postings that submissions alone will not take the keyword to the top.

We do SEO for very limited outside clients. We have our own portals www.recycleinme.com , www.exchangeandplant.com, www.biznessuae.com and lot more for which we dedicate our SEO services

If you search for "scrap", "metal scrap", "scrap prices" or any other phrase related to scrap you can see our site recycleinme.com on the first page.. "Scrap" is one keyword which fasces stiff competition from giants like alibaba.com .
You can understand the competition of the keyword from the sponsored ads
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=scrap+metal

and we top the list for 33,800,000 results.

I would like to brief our friends on how we work on a project so that no one shoul dhave an idea that we are doing cheap seo or fooling our clients.

1. First and foremost we check for any broken links/ images/script errors and fix it up.
2. Update Meta tags, optimize content/image/urls for keywords. Here again we don't do sites for Search Engines but do it for users and maintain a proper balance.
3. The next step is to make the XML site Maps for google which is done with utmost care and according to google standards. We will ensure that every single page is crawled by google and fix any bugs/roadblocks until the diagnosis is 100% error free.
4. Similarly we do it for yahoo and msn according to their standards.
5. Then we move onto offsite optimization.. The first and foremost step is to submit the site in good PR directories.
6. We then have articles written with quality content optimized with the keywords and keyphrases and distribute them to various article directories and related sites..
7. Acquire links one way 3 way,
8. Buy text links from selected and related sites(No link brokers or link farms)
9. Constantly submit press releases and any news related to the site.

I would like to hear from you if ripfast is still stupid in employing us to do the job.. I see you have a great reputation and have lot of posts. I would like your views on the above..

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