Is this legit ... or are they beating the system.

Do a Google search for something automotive ... say, "wiring diagrams for 2004 chevy silverado" and look at the results ... starting mostly on the second page.

google search: wiring diagrams for 2004 chevy silverado

There are hundreds (thousands maybe) of worthless links to pages like "user*********.computeritc.net" (the user numbers change but there are thousands of them).

The pages have no page rank that I can see ... and all legitimate sites are now shoved back many pages.

Anyone know how they do this (with no content and no page rank) and/or why Google allows it?

Thanks.

Realistically - how many "legitimate sites" target these long phrases?

Realistically - how many searches are actually conducted daily, weekly, monthly?

1 to 10 are likely the answers and those are on the first page and seen first.

Well, okay, I guess that makes sense.

... but, the site I was looking for, that had a page rank of 2 and came up on like the 3rd page last time (2-3 weeks ago) ... now is on the 55th page of search, still has a rank of 2 ... and there are now 53 pages of crap in between with no page rank at all.

I just don't get it is all ... I didn't have to wade through all this garbage before and I am curious why it is there now.

They do look pretty spammy to me. Google is treating each of those users as seperate site as they are sub domains but these are all just adsense sites. Put in a SPAM report to google or just wait for the algo to satch up with them. Must only be because there though becasue no real comp for the word phrase as these sites are showing no links. Even the parent site www.computeritc.net only shows a pr 3 (not that this matters). My guess no one is competing for those phrases.

On search page 20 a relevant page shows up (faqs.org) with a page rank of 5 ... so how does the 0-rank spams sites get 19-pages ahead?

... if anyone knows.

Hmm good question. the phrase they are ranking for is not even on the page. The only place they have chevy silverado is in the title.

I would guess this comapan has done lots of long tail research and has put up adsense pages for many longtails. Good way to make some money.

But these pages according to yahoo have zero inlinks. So do not know why they are ranking at all. Especially since they do not even have the search phrase on them. My guess would be the 'new site boost' effect. That this company creates new sites that tend to rank well on google for a short period of time. When the new site boost effect wears of they just create more new sites.

Either this or their doing something else pretty sneaky that doesn't show up on a link search on yahoo, all the web or altavista.

Interested in other peoples thorts on how this comapny is achieving this also.

Anyone?

It looks very spammy to me but you must remember that Google Toolbar Pagerank and your search rankings are NOT at all related.....

In my opinion, this is the right guess. If you are really interested in taking them down, copy screen shots or excel lists of the top 50. Do it once or twice a week and you'll notice that new subdomains keep popping up.

What they're doing is using internal links to get them boosted. It will only last for a short time (few days to a couple of weeks). Once they fall off the charts, the pages are destroyed and replaced by different domains with variations to the content.

I've considered doing something similar, but decided it was too spammy. Came across it by accident. We redesigned our site completely. I noticed when I added some folders and linked to them from the homepage, they appeared just under my homepage on some good keywords for a short time. Then

and they were gone.

I would definitely report it, then track it, then report it some more.

I went down all the way to the 9th page, the 12th page and everywhere it was user.computeritc.net

I think that after the sites listed on the first page, the rest of the SERP is ruled by these spammy urls.

I also doubt about the competitiveness of the keyword "wiring diagrams for 2004 chevy silverado" Ideally such a long tail keyword will have a very low competition. After all google has to show some sites for this keyword and when they can't find enough they fill in with user.computeritc.net

Well, I needed wiring information for my 2004 Silverado - so the keyword phrase made sense to me.

I did find several very useful sites, but they were all after hundreds of the spam-links we are discussing.

If Googles' goal is to make their search more relevant, then they seriously failed in this case.

Thanks for everyone's input.

Cloaking.

The terms may only have 1-10 searches a day, but get a few hundred thousand pages indexed and you have some serious traffic coming in daily. I design software for a living that does just that.

So you are a scammer then?

I guess I am old-fashioned. I want my Google results to be legitimate and relevant ... not full of bs spam from scammers!

you can get on google by just using adsense. After you put the banner on the site google starts spidering it and you show up on google. That's probably why they are on google and not the others. Then all they have to do is go to each page once.

What does cloaking and being a scammer have to do with each other? I'm simply building targeted search engine pages that the search engines like, then sending the traffic to a page with information that the user actually searched for. I'm not delivering anything other than what the user that performed the search was looking for.