Is my home page banned now?

It’s a long story which some of you may already know, but about 6 months ago I redid my whole site and lost more than half of my pages. I had someone do 404 redirects because he was unable to get access to do 301 redirects – long story, but my hosting company wouldn’t allow access and wouldn’t do anything for me. After that my home page disappeared from the top 1000 index pages. Well it did come back for a while in the top 200 only to disappear again after a couple weeks. When I had checked before on google and typed site:wwwdotmydomaindotcom it would show my home page as the top result so it appeared it hadn’t been banned. Now I looked and my home page isn’t indexed at all when I check the site: command. Does this mean I am banned? Could someone please give me an answer because I’ve been in this rut for a while and not sure if I should just start a whole new site or not. This site is over 2 years old with good backlinks but doesn’t seem to be going anywhere! I’m willing to just start another site and wait it out rather than hoping this one will ever regain rankings again and now I’m sure it’s probably banned. Trying to contact google is useless – been there, done that. And my site that is ranking good has a link to this other site and I’m afraid it will affect its rankings if my other site is banned. Does anyone have any suggestions? Should I start a whole new site? And should I remove the link from my good ranking site to this site in question?

I don't have all the answers to this question and would like to actually see what others say about it, but I have also had this same problem. I remade my website back in August of 2006 not knowing about 301 redirects till some time around Dec or Jan but by then it was a 2 or 3 months to late and googe completely took us off their search engines. For a long time we couldn't even get the top results for our domain name, however it seems after about 3 to 4 months google started to spider us a lot more and we are starting to get pr on some of the pages (zero mind you, but it's better then nothing) and my domain is first again when searched. My guess is you loose all your trusted rank with google and you have to earn it back if this is the case it's basiclly the same as starting a new website, so it's pointless to start another website. Just make sure you fixed all the 404 pages and google will eventually like you again. Sign up for google's webmaster tool and it'll help you a lot with this. I think the reason google does this is because it makes their crawl rate a lot higher as they are trying to spider 100's of 404 pages so they just get pissed at you and take away your TR.

What's strange though is all my pages within that site are ranking and are listed, but the home page is non-existant. My question though was if it is banned since it isn't even showing up on the site: command. Because if it is banned it may be banned for good - that is the reason for wanting to start a whole new site.

no it can't be banned for good. There is a thing on webmaster's tool called 'Submit a reconsideration request' it's on the first page before you click on one of your websites. What you do is fix all the problems that you think banned you from google and then send them a request giving them as much detail of whawt you did to fix the problem. Read there webmaster's rules and looking into black hat tech to make sure you aren't doing any of those. I don't really know the anser to this, but I would think if one page on your website is banned your whole site...I honestly don't think your home page is banned...it may be penalized for some reason.

I was kind of wondering why you can't do a 301 redirect? is it cause you don't have access to the htaccess file? because I'm pretty sure you can still do a 301 redirect in any server side language as well.

It's a long story. I am with this sort of lame hosting company because they are one of the few companies that support the site builder program I am using. Since I am a novice in SEO I hired two different professionals to see if they could do 301 redirects. Both of them told me that unless they can get htaccess they cannot do a 301 redirect, but they could do 404 redirects. Well to make a long story short (which with this site there are many looooong stories), the professional I hired needed to get htaccess to direct all non www. domains to www. domains (if that makes sense). He tried contacting my hosting company many times, left messages and asked if they could do it themselves and they outright refused and wouldn't allow him access either. He recommended to me to find a different hosting company. Anyway, I haven't got a different one as of yet, but considering it.

Without the Urls......stick them in your profiles.....

Sorry its wwwdoteverafter-bridaldotcom

Quite frankly when there is a ban it's a bigger reason to hire a pro. You have to be meticulous with your campaign to bring your web site back from hades.

Of course, you could do what pteam would do and just start a new web site all together, ripping off the content from the old one away you go.

Why has noone stated the obvious? You need a new hosting company first and foremost. You need to learn to use a different site building program and get access to your files. This stuff about ways around is ludicrous and I don't understand why you have not transferred your domain to another hosting company.

Your site also has about 460 links to other sites, a bunch of those links are broken and a lot are to sites which are not relevant. I don't think your site is banned, your index still shows a green bar and you do have pages in the index. Looking at the whois data your current ip history shows 36 changes on 17 unique name servers over 2 years. This is beyond my knowledge but could the server host have moved your site recently without providing a redirect to the new location and it is taking time for the bots to find it again?

djstreet - Do you know of any good seo pros? I have contacted many people and I'm not sure even what it is I need as they all tell me something different. In fact that was the reason I redid my whole site was because some seo expert told me my code was messed up. I was using yahoo site builder that has a pre-built messy code. This is the 3rd time I've redone my whole site because of various reasons. I did not have anyone helping me in the beginning I was all on my own, so as a novice I had no clue what platform to use to build my site. Made 3 mistakes over 2 years. Although I'm willing to start a whole new site knowing what I know now and just wait it out to start ranking.

jramond - I am not sure which hosting company to go with. When I tried originally to direct my site (built on platform called Site Spinner by Virtual Mechanics) to yahoo hosting, they couldn't get the site to direct to it because it needed an adaptor or something like that. They only support their own yahoo platforms or dreamweaver or Microsoft Front Page. I don't want this problem if say I want to go with another reputable company like say GoDaddy or some other ones. Most people haven't even heard of Site Spinner that's why I went with the hosting company that supports the program and is familiar with it. Although I am willing to make the sacrifice if I can find a company that I can direct it to without any problems.

NavyCS - which links were broken? I've checked alot of my links and didn't see any broken but maybe I need to look again. I'm not sure where the 17 servers has come from. I purchased that domain from Aplus.net and they have only directed to 3 servers over the past 2 years that I know of. And the guy who did my redirects I'm sure just redirected them to my own site server.

djstreet is it the same case for people that got pentilized for not putting in 301 redirects with a new site?....I know there has to be something with having a lot of 404 errors because that is basicly the difference between my new site and my old one...and it seems the same with badkitty.


is there reason you said make a new site? I mean before my remodeling I had a pr of 6 on my home page and for a long time it wasn't even ranked and now it's finally 0

NavyCS by chance what program did you use to figure that out?

Ok... so maybe I am missing something
If you are wonding if -> www.eZvZerafZter-bZriZdZal.com (remove the Z) "homepage/landing" is "banned" (if not please supply exact URL in question)

It is not banned but you are just confusing the crap out of poor G and it is doing its best to sort it out and display best results...
For instance do you see a problem with this (the few I looked into)…:
www.eZvZerafZter-bZriZdZal.com
eZvZerafZter-bZriZdZal.com
eZvZerafZter-bZriZdZal.com/index.htm
2-3 word differences
eZvZerafZter-bZriZdZal.com/?pageid=35299

Do a site:eZvZerafZter-bZriZdZal.com this will always return all results for the domain... (now I have herd that using site:www.eZvZerafZter-bZriZdZal.com is returning all sub domains now also.. but not 100% sure)

Now go to the end and click on “repeat the search with the omitted results included”

So as you can see you have a lot of pages that are being omitted due to things like similar content, duplicate content, etc. (Do you notice www.eZvZerafZter-bZriZdZal.com eZvZerafZter-bZriZdZal.com are listed but one is being omitted?) If you get your URL redirecting under control and leave out unintentional duplicate content I would assume things would work out much better.

My suggestions:
1. If it is appache (Unix) you usually always have the .htaccess available to edit to make this work. (Its located in the root of your directory..sorry just checked your on Microsoft-IIS )
2. As mentioned do what you need to do, and get a 301 redirecting the non www and all other page URLs -> to the correct www (don't confuse the SE more + you do not want to split link and PR between the 2. you can see this visibly in Yahoo and G Serps for the site: operator)
3. Make sure all your internal/external linking (sites linking to you) using the correct domain/subdomain (currently I see some mix)
4. Remove pages with that are few word variables or create unique content/Meta/URLs for them if the are supposed to be targeting something unique

Hope it helps,
-Flat4

Yeah I do know I can post url's and they are.... kinda.
The reason why I added z's was simply to protect the rankings of the poster.. I would hate to see this post ranking for the posters branded site name