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Is Google ignoring my site
Hi everyone
I recently finished a site that I assumed would be an seo monster due to the amount of content in it.
I waited eagerly for google to check it out by making some small changes to the title that I would notice on the search page.
The site is now searchable if I search large chunks of text from it but it doesn't show up at all if i search the main keywords which are plastered all over the site.
I'm no seo expert and i'm beginning to think I've made some silly mistakes.
Almost all the images have alt with the name of the website and then a description.
Almost all the pages have the same title, keyword and description info.
I've done this before on other smaller sites with some success.
Could google be ignoring me?? And if so could it be because of a lot of similar meta data?
Any help or insight is so appreciated, I'm at a loss for what to do.
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I recently finished a site that I assumed would be an seo monster due to the amount of content in it.
The amount of content does not make a site an SEO monster, good content does
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Almost all the images have alt with the name of the website and then a description.
Almost all the pages have the same title, keyword and description info.
Personally I would have the alts with the description and then the name of the website.
If all your pages have the same title and description info are they all the same content? If not why are the titles and descriptions not different and reflecting the content of the page?
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Originally Posted by lambay
Hi everyone
I recently finished a site that I assumed would be an seo monster due to the amount of content in it.
I waited eagerly for google to check it out by making some small changes to the title that I would notice on the search page.
The site is now searchable if I search large chunks of text from it but it doesn't show up at all if i search the main keywords which are plastered all over the site.
I'm no seo expert and i'm beginning to think I've made some silly mistakes.
Almost all the images have alt with the name of the website and then a description.
Almost all the pages have the same title, keyword and description info.
I've done this before on other smaller sites with some success.
Could google be ignoring me?? And if so could it be because of a lot of similar meta data?
Any help or insight is so appreciated, I'm at a loss for what to do.
Thanks all
Is it possible you could post your site on here
not as a link but like this = www dot mysite dot com so we can have a look at the site.
By the sounds of things you could be doing with reading the stickies and posts on the forum and learning about seo , sites dont tend to usually have the same title tags on every single page especially if its as big as your making out !
Give the site and ill have a quick look !
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Hi guys,
I appreciate the help
The site is at www dot enjoymalahide dot com
I'll definitely start reading the stickies and pay more attention to seo in the future. When i make the site out to be huge i guess its only huge by what i'm used to
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Hi guys,
I appreciate the help
The site is at www dot enjoymalahide dot com
I'll definitely start reading the stickies and pay more attention to seo in the future. When i make the site out to be huge i guess its only huge by what i'm used to
Ok ive had a quick look at the site, and took the pubs.html page as an example under your drinking tab, now if i look at your title tags , there the same on all the pages ive looked at , now the title tag on that page shoudl not be about castles in malahide or tourism finghal or whatever it ssays the title tag can be quite useful , however should be used in relevance to the page , which means it should include drinking in finghal or whatever your research shows you .
Make sure your title tag is relevant to each page , the content is relevant to a page, and of good quality, and any links going to that page are relevant to that page , with good anchor text again relevant to that page !
Definetly worth while reading more on this forum and asking specific questions on things your unsure of .
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That's quite a nice site (I like the layout and how it works etc), so if you get your SEO sorted I can see the site doing very well IMO.
I would take the advice as Craig said above and read up on the stickies, then you can check over your site, make any changes you can see that are wrong and then come back to ask questions about any bits your still not sure on.
I would highly recommend you change each pages mete info first though as that will not help your rankings one bit. Meta details should be different and specific to each page and its content.
Also as said above the amount of content will not make your site rank any better if its not of high quality. Remember quality over quantity for content and links
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Will rank for "malahide shops" and is exactly 66 characters. The repeating in the pagetitle doesn't make much sense right now.
If you want to rank for Malahide Railway Station make a specific page for it: Malahide Railway Station | Enjoy Malahide.
If people search for "Malahide Salons" the naturally want to enter your site at the specific category "Malahide Salons", not your more generic homepage.
Also be careful with those images alts, I think you are overdoing it now: "Enjoy Malahide - Starbucks" or every image: "enjoy malahide - *" is easy to detect and might trip some filters.
At most an alt of "starbucks in malahide" would be appropriate IMO.
You have nice content, design and structure. Reflect that in your pagetitles:
http://enjoymalahide.com/eating/cafes.html
Could be:
Cafes « Eating | Enjoy Malahide
Or:
Cafes in Malahide | Eating, Restaurants, Bars, Pubs
See how you can target the pages much more relevant like this?
You could add width and height to the images, to make them load faster/more progessively, but the site runs fast already.
Look at your keyword meta tags. Write content/articles to target those terms, not all at once. Keyword meta itself is useless, so you might want to remove that, else you give competitors a look into your keyword research kitchen.
Get some more backlinks too, look for linking opportunities from businesses in Malahide, im sure you can arrange something (like a small badge, a free listing in return for a link etc.)
If your twitter and facebook outrank you, you have a high chance there is something wrong (that shouldn't happen).
- Is the site very young still and was social media promotion big?
Also take a further look at your mark-up. I don't see h1 headings. Though the SEO benefit is negligible, it provides structure and helps with targetting pages/staying in that mindset.
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Thanks everyone for all the help. I'll be putting some time into making some changes and keeping an eye on the results. Then I'll be reading the stickies and other seo info
Then hopefully one day I'll be able to help someone with their seo issues
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Thanks everyone for all the help. I'll be putting some time into making some changes and keeping an eye on the results. Then I'll be reading the stickies and other seo info
Then hopefully one day I'll be able to help someone with their seo issues
Great forum and great people, thanks again
Good work, let us know how the changes helped.
IMO Changing the titles, and a little patience will get you a long way with this website.
Also - The stickies here are very long sometimes, but very important also, take the time to really explore them.
You just have to remember that you're not writing "for" Google, but for people. Keep on doing that, and Google will know.
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Good work, let us know how the changes helped.
IMO Changing the titles, and a little patience will get you a long way with this website.
Also - The stickies here are very long sometimes, but very important also, take the time to really explore them.
You just have to remember that you're not writing "for" Google, but for people. Keep on doing that, and Google will know.
The changes have definitely helped I read through the stickys and I've changed all the title tags, cleared out the broken links and sent an xml sitemap to google.
The hardest part is waiting for google to come back around and then wondering if they've been or not when only small changes were made. It can take up to a month I've heard, is that true? Is there a way to know if google has been back?
Also, I haven't been able to find an up to date answer about meta keywords. I've entered keywords from the pages into the meta keywords. A lot of people say this is useless, obsolete and unnecessary which is fine. But can it do any harm? And is it still possible to have too many keywords in the meta data?
Thanks again for all the help and advice. I've still a lot to learn but what I've learned so far has been a fantastic help
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The changes have definitely helped I read through the stickys and I've changed all the title tags, cleared out the broken links and sent an xml sitemap to google.
The hardest part is waiting for google to come back around and then wondering if they've been or not when only small changes were made. It can take up to a month I've heard, is that true? Is there a way to know if google has been back?
Install Google Webmaster Tools or check the cache date of a couple of pages to see if Googlebot revisited your site. It can take up to 30 days, but if you have some decent backlinks Google is likely to pick up changes a lot sooner.
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Also, I haven't been able to find an up to date answer about meta keywords. I've entered keywords from the pages into the meta keywords. A lot of people say this is useless, obsolete and unnecessary which is fine. But can it do any harm? And is it still possible to have too many keywords in the meta data?
Meta keywords is dead, time-waster. Can it hurt you? It might in 2 ways:
- give competitors valuable keyword data
- cause someone to look deeper into your site, if your meta is spammy.
I can't say for sure if Google penalises for stuffing meta keywords or just ignores it. It used to penalize for stuffing, but now I think it is just ignoring. The "old" rules for forming a correct meta keywords are:
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use lowercase, don't repeat keywords, stay under 20 words and make sure every word appears on the page exactly like its written in keyword meta tag.
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But you can safely ignore those rules, since they benefit no one these days.