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Old November 20th, 2009, 11:12 AM
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Damn brother, let it go. Your strategy is whack.

Yeah hide your who-is. It might buy you some time.

Edited to add: Stop deleting and changing your posts. Sheese!


Thank you all for your input but no thanks to the guyz that gave me negative reputation for not wanting to discuss my project in detail on a public forum
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Old November 20th, 2009, 11:58 AM
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Thank you all for your input but no thanks to the guyz that gave me negative reputation for not wanting to discuss my project in detail on a public forum

The word "please" is NOT the same as "Unfortunately I can not discuss those details openly". Or simply remaining silent. Do not insult my intelligence or anyone else's by pretending they are in any way equivilent responses.
Your plan was/is being criticized for good reason. I would suggest you at least consider the alternate point of view being expressed.

You could have gracefully bowed out of further discussion. Instead you went for the one word ego satisfying post and removed all your previous posts like some 10 year old caught with their hand in the cookie jar. And now you are talking about how we all must be new or not have participated in a prodject to 'dominate the first 5 PAGES of Google for a highly competitive term'.

Get over yourself. You deserved the rep.

ETA: Post quoted in full because you have a habit of changing them.

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Old November 25th, 2009, 07:23 AM
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I stand by the rep. A simple I can't discuss those details would have been fine and I would not have neged it. But the single word 'please' wasn't helpful. And deleting all the posts so others could not learn from the discussion was uncalled for.
I could see balancing my negative rep with positive but you provided more than that. I have to wonder what it is that this poster contributed that you think is so useful.
For someone going by the name 'Top ranked SEO' he seems to have no idea what he is talking about as is demonstrated by his posting history.
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I stand by the rep. A simple I can't discuss those details would have been fine and I would not have neged it. But the single word 'please' wasn't helpful. And deleting all the posts so others could not learn from the discussion was uncalled for.
I could see balancing my negative rep with positive but you provided more than that. I have to wonder what it is that this poster contributed that you think is so useful.
For someone going by the name 'Top ranked SEO' he seems to have no idea what he is talking about as is demonstrated by his posting history.


Negative rep should be reserved for spam, and misleading advice.. he was neither spamming nor offering misleading advice.

I felt that you guys were ganging up on him and so I chose with my rep to rebalance it.

Plenty of members who are now "high rep" on here came along spouting huge amounts of crap to start with, but they stayed and learnt, gained rep over time and now offer advice back.

Sitting on your high horse and beating down the less experienced with negative rep is not what these forums should be about.

The unfortunate thing with the rep system is that it's growth is exponential.. it used to take a long long time to go from one rep level to another, now you can jump 2 levels with just one person agreeing with you in some cases..

on the flip side this also allows people to bombed into being labelled a spammer with one hit.

Really the rep on the forum needs dividing by 10.
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Old November 25th, 2009, 08:34 AM
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Negative rep should be reserved for spam, and misleading advice.. he was neither spamming nor offering misleading advice.

I felt that you guys were ganging up on him and so I chose with my rep to rebalance it.

Fair enough. I can see that perspective. I was more wondering why you chose a number that netted him higher rep. But it isn't a big deal.

I agree that dividing by some number (maybe not 10) might be appropriate.

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Old November 25th, 2009, 08:40 AM
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Thank you all for your input but no thanks to the guyz that gave me negative reputation for not wanting to discuss my project in detail on a public forum
negative reputation is not a personal offend but it is a medium of telling you the degree of disagreeness.

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You don't think that an OP deleting posts when people don't agree with him in a thread that HE started is cause for negative rep? I do.

I have no problem with people disagreeing with me, forums are perfect for exchanging ideas and debating theories but when someone deletes posts it defeats the whole purpose of the forum and wastes the time of the people kind enough to share their thoughts on the subject.

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Negative rep should be reserved for spam, and misleading advice.. he was neither spamming nor offering misleading advice.

I felt that you guys were ganging up on him and so I chose with my rep to rebalance it.

Plenty of members who are now "high rep" on here came along spouting huge amounts of crap to start with, but they stayed and learnt, gained rep over time and now offer advice back.

Sitting on your high horse and beating down the less experienced with negative rep is not what these forums should be about.

The unfortunate thing with the rep system is that it's growth is exponential.. it used to take a long long time to go from one rep level to another, now you can jump 2 levels with just one person agreeing with you in some cases..

on the flip side this also allows people to bombed into being labelled a spammer with one hit.

Really the rep on the forum needs dividing by 10.
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Old November 25th, 2009, 09:16 AM
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You don't think that an OP deleting posts when people don't agree with him in a thread that HE started is cause for negative rep? I do.

I have no problem with people disagreeing with me, forums are perfect for exchanging ideas and debating theories but when someone deletes posts it defeats the whole purpose of the forum and wastes the time of the people kind enough to share their thoughts on the subject.


I like this forum and I do come for advice and discuss some questions on my mind and most of the time I get my answer or at least i get some direction and then with a little research it get the thing done.

However, on this particular thread, no one was looking at my original question but they came after me for something I didnt want to discuss openly, I tried to stop the discussion by asking the moderators to end the thread, but i got very negative replies from everyone so I had no choice but to delete my own posts.

I respect everyone on this forum and expect to be respected by other members.

I am not new to SEO, however I am not a regular on this forum so I didnt know the rules.

I appriciate the person who gave me some positive points to balance out my reputation. Thank you man

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Old November 25th, 2009, 10:10 AM
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...so I had no choice but to delete my own posts.

Of course you had a choice. You could have simply not responded to posts on topics you did not want to discuss, stopped responding to the thread entirely, or simply stated that you didn't want to get into those details publicly rather than insulting people by talking about how we must not know what we are doing because we have never worked on a project of that scale etc.

Deleting your old posts served no positive purpose.

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I am not new to SEO...

That may be but you don't even seem to understand that anyone can link to any site they feel like on the web.
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...your client a huge global organization that is extremely cautious about who links to their sites

So I stand by my questioning of your status as an 'expert'.

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Of course you had a choice. You could have simply not responded to posts on topics you did not want to discuss, stopped responding to the thread entirely, or simply stated that you didn't want to get into those details publicly rather than insulting people by talking about how we must not know what we are doing because we have never worked on a project of that scale etc.

Deleting your old posts served no positive purpose.

As for:

That may be but you don't even seem to understand that anyone can link to any site they feel like on the web.

So I stand by my questioning of your status as an 'expert'.



By having more posts or being a moderator on a forum DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN EXPERT DOES IT?

The things you mentioned above are just for discussion only, just want to know what other say about those things.

Talking about my experience, I dont have to prove it to anyone and specially not to some arrogant people that think they are superior in any way.

First you say this forum is for discussing thing, but if someone does it, you MOCK him for asking questions? is that what this forum all about?


Heres my project, now you tell me how you will go about it.

Objective: Dominate top 5 result pages of a competitive term that includes optimising 350 sites across multiple countries. Each local google must have local sites in top 5 pages.

Have to be very careful who links to your site as client is extremely cautious about what people say about their brand and the sites or pages linking to thier sites. That means you cant run simple link bait campaigns, you cant buy links, you cant put links in forums or post them on blog comments. Now dont tell me companies dont care about that coz this company does.
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Here's the problem - no one here would go about the situation the way you propose.

You're asking about a tactic no one would use. When they try to explain to you that you're not going about it in a reasonable manner, you refuse to listen.

You're not looking for advice, you are looking for agreement.
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Ok so basically this forum is not about discussing SEO issues, its all about saying YES to what these moderators say? if you ask questions, you'll get negative reputation? is that so?

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Ok so basically this forum is not about discussing SEO issues, its all about saying YES to what these moderators say? if you ask questions, you'll get negative reputation? is that so?


This is like going to a surgery forum and asking " I am performing an operation tomorrow. At what RPM should I run my chainsaw when I cut through the bone"?

The answer would not be 6500 RPMs although this may very well be the best speed to cut through bone.

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It is about SEO. Not spamming SERPs with 5 different sites in 50 countries with websites that have no true reason for being there.

Seriously, as a consumer, how irritated do you think I would be with Google if, when searching for an item, I go through the search results, and then find that the first 5 are all from the same company, providing different variations of the same exact information. That's not differentiation, it doesn't help me search for what I'm looking for, and I'm likely to switch over to Yahoo or someone that provides more information.

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