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    HTTPS and Google


    I'm sure many of you know this is coming and are planning to act on it:
    Google emails warnings to webmasters that Chrome will mark http pages with forms as ‘not secure’

    However you have to do more than just go secure.
    Google Representative:
    When you switch to HTTPS, double check you also switched your tracking and ad scripts to HTTPS, otherwise they'll be blocked by browsers
    Here's a pretty good guide on all that needs to be done

    Good luck!

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    Luckily, the forms my website has are only those created by contact form 7. I don't require anyone to login, I don't sell stuff, I don't accept donations and whatnot. Is it safe to say that I don't need https?

    By the way, the first link didn't work, here's the correct one Google emails warnings to webmasters that Chrome will mark http pages with forms as 'not secure'

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    Thanks Cloudduster, I fixed the link. We're a rather large agency here, so we decided that all client's websites will be secure regardless of what's on them. If I was still a one-three man show, I might make a different decision.
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    From a pure technical point of view there is no benefit for changing to HTTPS if you dont have forms, take payments etc on your site. In fact moving to a secure platform may slow your site down a little as there is a little more for the browser to do.

    However a while ago google decided a none secure web was not the way forward and urged webmasters to change, they reported they would give you a slight boost in rankings if you did, personally I have not seen a boost on sites I converted but I am happy to take the boost if there is one.

    As more of the web decided to follow google stance the majority of sites have now converted so even if you do change you are really just keeping up with your competitors so I would doubt you will see any improvement in rankings.

    Users now though have also brought into this idea of a secure web is better, even if they are just reading some blog post, we have started to become paranoid about security so giving your customers what they want is I would guess more important than the reality. Dont get me wrong, security is an issue but moving to HTTPS does not fix all issues.

    In the early days of HTTPS it was quite a task to convert over which required a lot of planning, however with the likes of cloudflare and others the whole process can be achieved within 30 mins or so. Its not a major thing any more. Cloudflare is also free so there is also no cost involved for doing this update.

    For me its a no brainer, users expect it, google wants it so take the time out and move your site over before it becomes a real problem and the site is blocked as I am sure that is the way it will end up in the future.

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    Originally Posted by Chedders
    For me its a no brainer, users expect it, google wants it so take the time out and move your site over before it becomes a real problem and the site is blocked as I am sure that is the way it will end up in the future.
    Thank you for your thoughtful response Chedders, very well said
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    Luckily, the forms my website has are only those created by contact form 7. I don't require anyone to login, I don't sell stuff, I don't accept donations and whatnot. Is it safe to say that I don't need https?

    By the way, the first link didn't work, here's the correct one Google emails warnings to webmasters that Chrome will mark http pages with forms as 'not secure'
    I believe as you have forms you will still need to migrate to https.
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    Originally Posted by ThomasHarvey
    I believe as you have forms you will still need to migrate to https.
    I did try it yesterday using Cloudflare and actually worked but Chrome displays 'unsafe script not loading' and unless those scripts load successfully, my website is just darn ugly. Busy with my content, no time to tinker for now.
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    I just switched over to https. It was an easy process because my hosting company made it super simple. I added the https www. and non www versions to my Search Console.

    Now I have no data in my Search Console, I think because I haven't submitted a sitemap for the https. I'm running WordPress and Yoast automatically created my original sitemap.

    Does anyone know, do I need to manually create another sitemap (don't know how to do that) for my https versions, or is there a way to tell Yoast plugin that it needs to create a sitemap for my https versions? Thanks.
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    You don't need a sitemap but you do need to redirect anyone going to the old http version to the https version
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    Hey Chedders, thanks for answering my question. I just made the switch to https 2 days ago. My pages seem to be indexed correctly in Google to the new https.

    I haven't changed to https on any of my social properties like Twitter. But when I check those links, they all take me to the new https version of the site.

    Are you saying I need to manually 301 all my old http pages to the new https?

    It seems like everything has updated automatically, but this is new to me so I could be missing something. So far I haven't noticed an affect on my rankings but this is something I'm keeping an eye on.
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    Don't forget to fix it your analytics account also
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    Thanks KernelPanic. I forgot to do that. This is my first time converting to https. I'll update my Analytics now.
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    Personally I would also grab a free copy of screaming frog, run that against your site and see if you are linking to any http content on your site.
    Although the site now maybe on the https some content i.e. images may not be, this can cause mixed content issues so pages wont be trusted as secure.

    In search console there is a lag so I doubt you will be seeing traffic there just yet, but in analytics that should be instant.
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    Thanks Chedders. I just ran it through Screaming Frog. Everything looks good. I don't see any mixed content issues. This switch to https was a little more involved than I first thought. Thanks for the recommendations.
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    Also do no forget to change xml sitemap (if you have one) location in your robots.txt file and submit it when you add your https site version in the console.
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