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No one is saying a keyword domain can't rank. I'm saying any domain no matter the name can rank equally well using the "precise values" associated with any other domain. If you took everything currently associated with engagementring.net and place it in copyrite.com and all the current links are switch to copyrite.com with few exceptions ranks would be identical... the actual enhancing value associated with the domain name is really quite small. The only 'advantage' is in certain link anchors... e.g. if you got a link in dmoz you could possibly get Engagement Ring or less valuable Engagementring.net where the other would be Copyrite as the anchor... and the value is "1 link" or a "few links" but there are hundreds, thousands, 10's of thousands of places to get links and 90% are not directory listings and the little bit of help you got from a few places are quickly over-shadowed by general link development. Your purely commercialized product catalog would likely never get a link from www.gia.edu or JVC or JA but another website can develop a web-based resource for appraising diamonds and get great links from these resources (and many more) and leave you scratching you keyword head. The value of your content is the value you get from links and in practice those that focus on keyword domains (because they think they get an edge) tend not to invest in better content, which offers "better links".
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Fathom, take this how you may, but I bet you have a tough time with relationships and getting along with people. You tend to believe you know everything. My Avatar change was a soft slap to those that choose to take my posts as "hard facts", everything I post in regards to methods I use to get ranking is an opinion, if it wasn't, this forum wouldn't even exist because SEO and SEM would be an exact science. And please inform me, where was "I caught Lying"? For you to bring up my post about my SEO affiliate revenue, just shows you have run out of ammo, my avatar didn't say that when i posted it. To keep you happy, I'll change it again. What about this? Also Fathom - What does this mean exactly? --- "Show me even a 20% success rate... then come back and play with the big boys." More detail and I'll see what I can do about proving things. You never answered above ^ AND DUH, getting the anchor text to contain your KW by having an OKID is one of the primary benefits of having it. Maybe I didn't emphasize it enough, but I did mention it. I also stated (i believe more than once, but I'm not reading this all over again) that branding is not always needed when your primary source of traffic (80%+) is all from SEs. I have certainly used branding in other marketing projects when it is essential. When you are simply looking for a one time click from a list of results, branding is not always important. My results have proven themselves and I know what they have produced, I don't need to prove myself to you or anyone else. I regret the fact I ever brought up $ figures, it was a mistake on my part. I get it, you don't agree that OKIDs help in SERPs. Fine. I'll do what I do, and you can do what you do. I have no hard feelings, in fact, I'm laughing. Have a GREAT DAY everyone!
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Bottomline: We all agree where we agree and agree to, as friends, disagree where we must.
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A Good Domain with Keywords
I know it's been beaten to death, but I think my latest experience might bring up another point.
Along the same lines as EGOL, having a good domain with your KW in it make you THE MAN. It seems to me that most of the top results are domains with KW in them. Besides this debatable theory, I believe it affects the visitor, client, and Webmaster mentally. I just purchased a premium domain that is incredible as far as a short, memorable domain with keywords. As a Webmaster, I feel better about investing my time in this domain than any of my other domains. I'll put in the extra time and effort to make this bad boy my baby. If it were for a client, it would give them faith in the site doing well and may help justify your costs. As far as the visitor goes, they will have more trust in this domain (So long as the website is good) because of the direct and obvious subject. I know that doesn't have much to do about the Serps, but they're all good reasons to choose a good KID. Debate all you want, it makes sense to the 5-year-old kid looking for toy soldiers. And let's face it; the Internet is basically being viewed by billions of 5-year-olds. Last edited by THE BERG : February 19th, 2008 at 06:18 PM. |
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Some history... A couple of months back the SEO for www(dot)software(dot)com started a thread here on SEO Chat. He was super concerned that everyone else with standard domain names were beating them in the SERPs for the keyword "software". He believed and swore because they owned www(dot)software(dot)com that they should dominate the SERPs for the keyword "software."
Several SEO Chat members, EGOL included, had to step him through truly optimizing his site www(dot)software(dot)com before he could start getting decent SERPs. There was a good lesson learned there... A great domain name does not guarantee you anything as far as SEO. Knowing how to take advantage of that domain name is where the payback is. The domain name in and of itself gives little help... using the domain name to your advantage is. |
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If I had a penny for every time this topic comes up in the forum, I'd be a millionaire by now.
I hope this thread puts to rest (for a while at least) the topic of Keywords in the Domain Names.
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Many people believe in going for keywords within a domain name (for example if SEO expert in India and want a domain name, you would by a seo-expert.in domain name). By doing this, they believe helps in search engine ranking (i.e. if anyone types “seo experts India” in search engines, their website will be rank higher) However seo-expert.in not brandable name. I personally not recommended this. There are lots of other factor in which you can target this keyword using a brandable name.
I know using keywords in domain name is very less factor but off page optimization is more effective. I further add to give my own example when I first abcd I had the option of using the domain name www.seo-india.com as seo India was an important keyword. How ever our director prefer brandable name (www.brandablename.com) which rank high for “SEO India” in Google. Last edited by faisalkaleem : February 2nd, 2008 at 05:56 AM. |
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yep I remember the software.com thread. I even sent him a PM to see if I could buy the domain. :X
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