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Exclamation Google Title Hack For Organic Results Improvement!!

I thought you guys and girls might like this idea.

I want to see if getting more clicks on my organic search result, will get my # 1 position back from Forbes.com for the term 'richest women'.

So I went in last week and made some changes to the title tag on my index page to draw some attention to the SERP result and get some clicks!!!!



Also you should note the link counts contained in yellow circles.

3 million to 600.....

links sminks.....

I hope others will try this and let others know the results as well.

A special acknowledgement to BlueHatSEO for this hack.

You can read the whole story on my search marketing blog !


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Well, it's nice of you to share the results of the changes you made.

However, changing the title of a page is not "hack". It's well known to any serious SEO that the title of a page is extremely important when it comes to rankings. The fact that you've got less links than the other site does not mean very much since ranking for particular keyword phrases depends on your on page optimisation and especially the source site and anchor text of the links you got.

I would never add something like 'Click this link!!!!!' to the titles of my pages.
If sharing this was well intended, thanks again. But you do sound a lot like a self-marketer here.

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Nice.

Don't mean to hijack the thread but, what FF addon is that where the link data shows in the results?
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Tell you one thing, I might actually click the link as "Riches women Top 10 Rich women"

However with the @@ and click here nonesense I would not. It makes the listing look amateurish/unprofessional. Also any clicks generated in this manner may not be as beneficial as you might think. Stick to using eye-catchers which are related to your content not irrelevant stuff like this.
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Nice.

Don't mean to hijack the thread but, what FF addon is that where the link data shows in the results?


Seo for firefox from seobook.
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Well, it's nice of you to share the results of the changes you made.

However, changing the title of a page is not "hack". It's well known to any serious SEO that the title of a page is extremely important when it comes to rankings. The fact that you've got less links than the other site does not mean very much since ranking for particular keyword phrases depends on your on page optimisation and especially the source site and anchor text of the links you got.

I would never add something like 'Click this link!!!!!' to the titles of my pages.

If sharing this was well intended, thanks again. But you do sound a lot like a self-marketer here.


Hi Chris

Okay well I'll have to try to post better thread titles.

That you would never do something.. does not mean everyone should follow suit.....I like to take risks.....other people are risk adverse in life.

I would agree there is some self promotion here.....but then how good of a marketer would anyone be if they cannot promote themselves to some degree??

Back on topic now....

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Google likes accurate titles and not spammy titles like that. You'll get booted if a human reviewer sees that.

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Okay well I'll have to try to post better thread titles.


Hey, that's alright, you show that you care

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Definitely true, I'm not god, so not everyone has to do what I do. In this case, however, it's not at all about taking risks. As Visio already said, using such words in your titles makes you look unprofessional. Apart from that and from the point of view of SEO, it wastes precious characters in your page title with generic words that you don't want to rank for and dilutes the effect of the words in it that you do want to rank for. -> Nothing to gain here

Using keyword rich titles that encourage people to click on them is definitely a good thing to do and a standard on page optimisation technique. Let us know whether you get more visitors after the change. Btw: What was your title before?

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The tip you mention from bluehatseo concerns including unique symbols not usually seen on websites (such as the ø in his title). The symbols and text you've chosen to use looks very unprofessional and is often associated with spam email titles in my opinion. If anything I imagine your click through will go down...

Regarding the number of links displayed, you'll notice these concern the whole domain and not just the individual page being returned in the results.

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Precious characters taken up by useless symbols.

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So what did adding @@--> Do for you?

Where were you before you added that and where were you after that?

Were you on the same Data Center, did you have the same amount of links, eg was there a back link update between the times these results were done?

Please post some more "evidence" and results.
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Don't mean to hijack the thread but, what FF addon is that where the link data shows in the results?



SEOQuake does, but that one looks different. I'd like to know as well.

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Definitely true, I'm not god, so not everyone has to do what I do. In this case, however, it's not at all about taking risks. As Visio already said, using such words in your titles makes you look unprofessional. Apart from that and from the point of view of SEO, it wastes precious characters in your page title with generic words that you don't want to rank for and dilutes the effect of the words in it that you do want to rank for. -> Nothing to gain here

Using keyword rich titles that encourage people to click on them is definitely a good thing to do and a standard on page optimisation technique. Let us know whether you get more visitors after the change. Btw: What was your title before?


Hi

Do you think the bot reads these characters??

I bet they don't

Before the title was

Richest Women Top 10 Rich Women Worlds Wealthiest Person

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Precious characters taken up by useless symbols.


Do you think the bot reads these characters??

I bet they don't

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So what did adding @@--> Do for you?

Where were you before you added that and where were you after that?

Were you on the same Data Center, did you have the same amount of links, eg was there a back link update between the times these results were done?

Please post some more "evidence" and results.


I just started this so no results are seen yet. I was at # 2 and still am....

I dont worry about links or data centers....one can spend too much time trying to analyze the unknown.....ya know???

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SEOQuake does, but that one looks different. I'd like to know as well.


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While I agree in principle with most of the criticism above, at the end of the day, results trump all of the hot air in the world - even if the hot air "seems" to make sense. SEO1, it sounds like you are getting results. I've made a career out of doing what works instead of what everyone says you "should" do - so nice job on coming up with a theory and testing it instead of just listening to popular "wisdom".

That said, The results you are seeing may not have anything to do with the factors you think. I'm not saying they don't... only that they "may" not. Try it a few more times and see what happens.

Lastly, regarding all the advice about "click here"... I hate seeing "click here" anywhere on web sites. Coming from a usability background, it implies poor design to me (i.e., having to tell someone where to click). BUT, it works. It worked in 1995 and it still works today. The fact is, ads that say click here do get higher click rates than the same ad without it. So again, IMHO results trumps popular opinion. Listen to the advice of others. Try out everything that makes sense to you. But ultimately, keep doing what works.
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