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Old August 1st, 2007, 11:22 AM
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site:www.yoursite.com ***-sljktf (copy exactly as shown but with your site)

I think it shows supp pages, i just tried it in Google and so far only pages that were in supp results (when i checked last week) are showing

i could be wrong, could someone else test this with their site??


I only see supp. results. too. Thats a bummer what google has done...I guess we have one more thing to work around now. *fist in air*

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Old August 1st, 2007, 11:34 AM
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I want to see supplemental results so I know about potential issues with duplicate content, code errors or the need to build backlinks.

Add /& onto the end of your site: search's url string and the will all still show up, just without the - Supplemental Results after it.

Since most of us have figured out linking to the page from your index page or building social bookmarks or doing a press release the right way will pull it out, I think this is their attempt to dissuade the majority of novice SEO'ers from using these tactics.

Either way even pulling it out of supplementals won't pop you onto page 10, but its a start.

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Thanks for that tip Gary.

I too like to see supplementals as I sometimes make mistakes by duplicating titles etc.

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is there anything you can use in your search to exclude supplemetanl results and just see those in the main index ?

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I read the Matt Cutts post and found this of interest

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We're also working towards showing more Supplemental Results by ensuring that every query is able to search the supplemental index, and expect to roll this out over the course of the summer.


What do you good people read into this sentence ?

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they are going to try and show you all and i mean all supplemental pages of a site when you go looking for them.

that would be good, as gary stated above most of us here use the supplemental search in order to find duplicate content, site errors, and back link building....

hmm, tried looking up my ones and i couldn't find squat on google...

makes me quite sad really
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Someone please help me on the work around I hope I am just missing something...

The whole /&, doesn't make sense and isn't working for me (hopefully its just me)

Ok are you supposed to do -> site:www.yoursite.com/&
Or are you to append /& to the end of the search query URL?

Adding /& to the end of the search phrase returns nothing
Appending /& to the end of the URL makes no sense nor does it work.

When you are using URL's to pass JavaScript variables that will change the outcome of the next served page then this would be an extremely unsupported format.

It basically should be -> domain.com/whateverpage.html?(?place marker for the beginning of JavaScript variables)var1=value&(& is for adding additional variable)&var2=value&var....

So it would look like this ->
domain.com/whateverpage.html?var1=value&var2=value&var…..

By adding an addition /& does nothing other than add a trailing / to your last variable along with adding a “invisible” variable to the end

I hope this is just me misreading info because I would like the ability to view the supplemental index.
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Hi,

I think /& is not working with you, but in my case it is working perfectly. I want to elaborate it a bit more.

Yesterday we all noticed that Supplemental Results were gone, but after observing carefully it came out that the LABEL of Supplemental Results have gone, pages are still there. Four days back I checked the site indexing of microsoft with site:www.microsoft.com and it returned 1,000,000 pages. Then I checked the indexing with site:www.microsoft.com/& with 300,000 pages with supplemental results as LABEL.

Now today the results are same with both the commands, but now the LABEL supplemental results have been gone. So both the commands are returning the different results.

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The whole /&, doesn't make sense and isn't working for me (hopefully its just me)

Ok are you supposed to do -> site:www.yoursite.com/&
Or are you to append /& to the end of the search query URL?

Adding /& to the end of the search phrase returns nothing
Appending /& to the end of the URL makes no sense nor does it work.


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is there anything you can use in your search to exclude supplemetanl results and just see those in the main index ?


site:/www.yoursite.com

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is there anything you can use in your search to exclude supplemetanl results and just see those in the main index ?


Yes, just do a regular search.

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Four days back I checked the site indexing of microsoft with site:www.microsoft.com and it returned 1,000,000 pages. Then I checked the indexing with site:www.microsoft.com/& with 300,000 pages with supplemental results as LABEL.



That is truly interesting, and I hope that it is completely correct; however, when reviewing a few (now to review more) of our sites that I knew for a fact had and have supplemental results using site:www.domain.com/& returns 0 results.

So either:
1. This isn't 100% accurate
2. The 8 or so I checked of our sites now have no supplemental results which would be incredibly awesome, but I highly doubt.

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That is truly interesting, and I hope that it is completely correct; however, when reviewing a few (now to review more) of our sites that I knew for a fact had and have supplemental results using site:www.domain.com/& returns 0 results.

So either:
1. This isn't 100% accurate
2. The 8 or so I checked of our sites now have no supplemental results which would be incredibly awesome, but I highly doubt.


Be sure to try it with and without the space after the site:

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Ok so much more convinced of this tactic. Thanks to everyone input and help.

Compared to yesterday the same query’s are now returning results, don’t know if it was user error on me or an update to my facing DC, but in any case adding /& to the end of the search query is showing the usual suspects of supplemental results. (Very reassuring even my full test supplemental site is showing like normal)

So a way I was proving this method of truly seeing supplemental results to my self was to:
1. Find a page that was in supplemental results per adding the /& to the search query
2. Then using the server logs to review keyword phrases that were being driven to that particular page
3. Then use Google serps to determine the pages that were ranking and results shown

Now to my knowledge that in the past G would rarely if never show supplemental results unless there is no other relevant pages to display. Correct?

And what I found was that some pages that were deemed “supplemental” per the /& method were still getting traffic on keyword phrase nothing that I would consider competitive but still 1000 or so results for the phrase along with ranking #1 for the term.

So per the post on the G blog they could still very well be in supplemental result but maybe g is showing supplemental pages in the serps more regularly now.. dunno at this point of time

As always appreciate every ones insight and help,
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Yes, just do a regular search.


???

But just doing a search shows both supplemental and main index ?

Doesnt it ?

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no, searching in google will not show both supplemental and also main index results.

@gary, sense the sarcasm?? hehe

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