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    The Google Crash Theory


    On the 9th of May I sent an alert that Google was down and for some time it was down.

    I have been going over the period since then and looking at results and sales compared to my situation before and this has evolved into a theory that it seems that Google in some way crashed that day when placing a new index online and has been in recovery ever since and it has been performing with us under the influence that they are changing the algo, spam filters, linking strategies etc.,

    Has Google improved its algo since may 9th? My answer is NO

    Has Google improved the spam filters since then? NO

    Has google been updating the index with new stuff? NO, most of it is actually since March.

    Has google set into effect the domain filter of domains with new owners? NO

    Has google been eliminating spammers and link farms? NO

    Has google been eliminating old sites that have been down for months and were in top positions? NO

    No matter where I look at the changes that were said to be going on, no changes have been made, the index is old and something very bad has happened to Google and I bet someone is shaking at Google headquarters.

    GoogleGuy is another bull****. There is this guy said to be helping webmasters understanding Google and help them. This guy has been replying endless bull**** for weeks and lately he has been quoting literature and acting like the Oracle of Delphi.

    Am I sorry about this? In a way because I have been doing some really good content in the past few months and I would love to see it in Google, but I am one of the lucky ones with visits and sales generated from Google similar as it was before, but I can tell where this is all going.

    I am at the point of where I wish there was another option, another search engine as good as Google giving them the competition they need to perform. One day there will be and Google is doing their job perfectly of giving the competitors the opportunity to grow faster, bigger, better and more popular.

    As I remember in the beginning of Google they sought webmasters to submit their websites and webmasters embraced it and helped Google become what it is today. This has not been forgotten by us, but Google has forgotten. I believe that if there would start a momentum among webmasters of embracing a new search engine then the same would become as popular as Google and if that would happen then someone will regret their attitude as it is today.
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    good things come to those who wait..

    hold your horses, all other search engines are a huge step behind google.

    being the market leader is always a hard job...give them some slack...soon you will see the fruits of your labor.
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    While I agree with most of what you said, Google has indeed added new sites and they are all spammers and sites that have no relative connection to the keywords and description.
    Has Google improved its algo since may 9th? My answer is NO

    Has Google improved the spam filters since then? NO

    Has google been updating the index with new stuff? NO, most of it is actually since March. Wrong, I have consistently watched site after site with no backward links be added and then taken down then added again. The index is absolutely bizzare in my category. Mostly laden with porn spammers.

    Has google set into effect the domain filter of domains with new owners? YES & they are Spammers!!!

    Has google been eliminating spammers and link farms? NO

    Has google been eliminating old sites that have been down for months and were in top positions? NO
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    bah I am sick of all of your crying...

    I am not reading anymore crappy posts like this. I have absolutely NO PROBLEM with google and it's ranking.

    Obviously you have lost your ranks either because your sites were poorly designed/seo'd or you were spamming and that is why you were moved out.
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    Ice globe has some good points despite his emotional connection to the latest dance/down date situation. I think it is hard to deny that something bad happened over there at Google. Missing crawler, bad cache, missing/old links in the last update, longer dance period, together is spells bad mess somewhere in IT. Today’s index is a pieced together database that “will do” until they fix what happened, mixed with some freshbot data. There is no denying this reality.

    Google is sitting pretty, highly profitable and popular. Why then would they be messing with all this "algo change", "filter work" whatever the hell else too! Truth is they wouldn't. This has all been a bad mistake and they do not want to and never will own up to the fact that this was a mistake or problem. The negative PR would kill them.

    Right now, even today I am sure, the Google guys are figuring out how they are going to make a mint from this thing before it's not worth what they can get NOW. They are wheeling and dealing with the SEC people, writing their S1 to go public, touching up their books, putting all their ducks in a row....and looking for the Investment bank with the best deal for their IPO. If not IPO, then prepping for a sell to Yahoo or MSN.

    Why on earth would they "screw around" with algo changes, filters, etc in a major way (knowing they have a good / accurate / up to date product that is popular / valued by the public) ??? They wouldn't, it was a "F" up. There is no other explanation. Nothing else makes sense.
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    Listen to me...

    If this was a screw up, they would go back one month to the old algo and database.

    Then they would respider all sites and do a normal monthly update.

    What they are doing now is obviously the latest version of Google and it is working fine for some and bad for others.

    If there was a problem I am sure it wouldn't take them this long to fix.
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    Originally posted by "metagod"

    Listen to me...

    If this was a screw up, they would go back one month to the old algo and database.

    Then they would respider all sites and do a normal monthly update
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    One would hope.

    Originally posted by "metagod"

    What they are doing now is obviously the latest version of Google and it is working fine for some and bad for others.
    Could be.

    Originally posted by "metagod"


    If there was a problem I am sure it wouldn't take them this long to fix.
    Well I know of two very large companies that have F/U automated payment systems, been that way for years at both places. It ain't (sorry any teachers out there) rocket science, but a lot of places run for long, long periods of time with papered over botched systems.

    Cheers,
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    Listen to me...

    If this was a screw up, they would go back one month to the old algo and database.

    Then they would respider all sites and do a normal monthly update.

    What they are doing now is obviously the latest version of Google and it is working fine for some and bad for others.

    If there was a problem I am sure it wouldn't take them this long to
    Not sure if you work in IT or not that you would say something like this, if you don't you can't assume knowledge of their system and with the recent activity it's pretty obvious this is more than a algo update.

    We're talking about multiple dynamic databases, we're talking a backup that probably takes DAYS to complete.

    If it did crash there are a few things that could happen (plenty of other scenarios which I can't think of because I don't know how their system is setup).

    1. They could say, **** it crashed let's restore and possibly be offline for an unknown period of time. (IF it's as simple as clicking restore. which it probably isn't, we're talking a very complex system here).
    2. They could think they can fix it, let the backup complete and try to fix it.

    This is if it simply crashed. If it was slowly getting corrupt, getting bloated whatever and they are backing up bad data then to simply restore it and make it work won't always work.

    It is undeniable there was a timeframe when things went BAD.

    Why would they play with a new Algo in real time on their main server? They wouldn't that would be stupid.

    To me it sounds like the new algo that they were supposibly testing on the new server (now I forget which that was) blew up when they tried to run 3,083,324,652 or more pages through it.

    At that point what are they going to do, just stop and try to restore the system or fix the algo that broke it in the first place?

    They would probably try to fix what broke the system, that would make more sense.

    Something happened, it was bad, I hope it's fixed soon.
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    no no your right seowiz..

    i don't even have a computer...what is I.T?

    Explain to me SEOWIZ why I am the one of the only one that isn't complaining about losing good rankings or revenue?

    I will tell you why, because I haven't lost anything... now explain what I.T is again?
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    no no your right seowiz..

    i don't even have a computer...what is I.T?

    Explain to me SEOWIZ why I am the one of the only one that isn't complaining about losing good rankings or revenue?

    I will tell you why, because I haven't lost anything... now explain what I.T is again?
    LOL, I bet you work in Customer relations right?

    You are so friendly.

    You get along with a lot of people I can imagine.
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    If you "haven't lost anything" metagod - then whats with all the attitude?

    I actually agree with you and think everyone should give Google a break, but the only "crappy posts" on this forum seem to be ones like yours!
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    The attitude is when people that don't know me insult me (even though it is on the internet) i still do not appreciate it.

    I never mentioned anyone or disrespected anyone and I got an insult of "Not sure if you work in IT or not that you would say something like this"

    and FYI seowiz I don't work in customer rel...
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    Not sure if you work in IT or not that you would say something like this"
    That wasn't meant as an insult in any way.

    It was meant as a question with an explaination of why I asked it.
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    ok ok... My apologies...

    fyi I do work in IT, that was my explanation of why google is acting up like this.

    Where i work if there is problems like this hell is to pay for it...

    I am sure that it would be the same with google.

    There were alot of good points in previous posts but I just can't see why they would not just return to the older database that had "less spam" and "less errors"...

    can anyone tell me why?
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    Oh People,

    Please stop Crying! Google has done fine for Years - and i dont believe that all new Sites are Spammers - Please dont talk so much silly Things are you an Child whos cries for Mama?

    Be patient there are some changes in Google - My Pages works fine for Years now! And my Pages works fine today, too.

    Just wait some Weeks and dont postsilly Threads here - only post if there are some important things and not when you want to cry - better wait and do something good for youre post.
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