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    Getting listed in DMOZ linked to a BIG DROP in SERPs


    My website is 2 years old and has with time, good on-page SEO & back links had a good SE presence for industry related keywords. I have also tried several times to get it listed on DMOZ. I finally got it on DMOZ on Monday.
    Now the issue is that major pages on the site have dropped or disappeared on G - SERPs since its inclusion on G-directory yesterday. When I run a search for the site name, the cached version of the Header tag and Meta description no longer show. Instead I get the Title and description directly off the DMOZ / G-directory.
    This same issue occurred when I got listed on Yahoo a year ago – SERPs to my homepage were pulled off the Yahoo directory entry!?! I never quite recovered on the SERPs for Yahoo.

    Has anyone noticed a drop in SERPS immediately after getting listed DMOZ?
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    Originally Posted by lumargin
    My website is 2 years old and has with time, good on-page SEO & back links had a good SE presence for industry related keywords. I have also tried several times to get it listed on DMOZ. I finally got it on DMOZ on Monday.
    Now the issue is that major pages on the site have dropped or disappeared on G - SERPs since its inclusion on G-directory yesterday. When I run a search for the site name, the cached version of the Header tag and Meta description no longer show. Instead I get the Title and description directly off the DMOZ / G-directory.
    This same issue occurred when I got listed on Yahoo a year ago – SERPs to my homepage were pulled off the Yahoo directory entry!?! I never quite recovered on the SERPs for Yahoo.

    Has anyone noticed a drop in SERPS immediately after getting listed DMOZ?
    Be careful what you wish for "sometimes it comes true".

    <META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOODP">

    <META NAME="GOOGLEBOT" CONTENT="NOODP">

    Add to your site pages.
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    What does this code do?
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    Originally Posted by lumargin
    What does this code do?
    looks to me like the code Fathom has given u there is to stop your sites info being pulled in from the ODP.

    I wouldn't have thought it would work, but from what i gather he usually comes up trumps in these cases.
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    Originally Posted by lumargin
    What does this code do?
    Add to your header area.

    When Google (and others) started pulling OPD data to address your title and description for search listings - it automatically kills your own "title element" and page snippets in association with search queries.

    If your title element use to be Widgets - Blue, Red, Green and you ranked #1 for Widgets, Blue Widgets, Red Widgets, Green Widgets - and your company name is Bills Store (which doesn't use widgets, blue, red, or green in title - you inherently lost a major chunk of weighing criteria.

    Adding the code will - return to normal.
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    I don't believe that usage of the Open Directories title & site description effects your ranking. It's merely for display purposes and is only shown in response to certain key phrases. You'll have to look elsewhere to explain your rankings drop.

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    Originally Posted by derryt
    I don't believe that usage of the Open Directories title & site description effects your ranking. It's merely for display purposes and is only shown in response to certain key phrases. You'll have to look elsewhere to explain your rankings drop.
    I don't agree because this happened on Yahoo. If there is anyone out there that has experience this please give me a shout!
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    Originally Posted by derryt
    I don't believe that usage of the Open Directories title & site description effects your ranking. It's merely for display purposes and is only shown in response to certain key phrases. You'll have to look elsewhere to explain your rankings drop.
    I agree and if you wrote the description well it should be good for both google and dmoz.
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    Originally Posted by fathom
    Be careful what you wish for "sometimes it comes true".

    <META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOODP">

    <META NAME="GOOGLEBOT" CONTENT="NOODP">

    Add to your site pages.
    How safe is this piece of code? Will it affect me in anyway?
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    Originally Posted by lumargin
    How safe is this piece of code? Will it affect me in anyway?
    It will only prevent Google and MSN from using OPD data.
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    Originally Posted by lumargin
    How safe is this piece of code? Will it affect me in anyway?
    It's safe. It will make Google show your title & site description rather than DMOZ's. It certainly won't help regain your rankings.
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    Originally Posted by lumargin
    I don't agree because this happened on Yahoo. If there is anyone out there that has experience this please give me a shout!
    Sorry but your wrong and jumping to conclusions based on very, very flimsy evidence. Often happens in SEO which is why so many myths and half-truths exist.
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    Originally Posted by Tony B
    Sorry but your wrong and jumping to conclusions based on very, very flimsy evidence. Often happens in SEO which is why so many myths and half-truths exist.
    hmmm... well:

    1. got DMOZ listing

    2. Google used OPD data for title

    3. Ranks dropped in Google

    4. The owner didn't mention any hidden spam practices that may have got him caught

    Occum's Razor - The principle states that one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

    Also loosely defined - the simplest explanation is usually the correct one...

    SO: your right response is to not jump to any conclusion what-so-ever because you have concrete evidence to the contrary which are facts as opposed to myths and half-truths...

    How helpful is that? You actually get paid for advice like that?
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    It's true that once a site is in DMOZ google will often use the description from there. It's also true that the code posted will stop that happenning. It seems very unlikely that getting listed in any directory would hurt your serps. In fact getting listed in DMOZ is supposedly very very good for your SERPS
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    Originally Posted by systemshock
    It's true that once a site is in DMOZ google will often use the description from there. It's also true that the code posted will stop that happenning. It seems very unlikely that getting listed in any directory would hurt your serps. In fact getting listed in DMOZ is supposedly very very good for your SERPS
    Maybe true... so the correct answer for lost ranks is what?

    My "GUESS" if you use the "noopd" and ranks all of a sudden come back... is it consequence?

    Not saying that was the cause... but based on the available information - it's the only 'reasonable' answer... we are not mind readers nor psychics - without "more data" you can add to the list:

    1. dup content

    2. hidden text

    3. hidden links

    4. linking to a banned website...

    a million others... your correct answer is?
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