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Old March 31st, 2008, 08:50 PM
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Duplicate Content

I just checked my website on Copyscape for Duplicate content and found out quite a few links for different blogs with duplicate content.

How can i fix this? Is this hurting my results on google?

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If others have the same content as you then you compete with them for rankings. Is it hurting your results on Google? You bet, unless you have the most powerful website among the duplicates. Google the phrases in a few of your title tags and see if you come up #1 or at least highest of the duplicates.

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If you are using the same content source as your competitors then it is time to consider the hard work and expense of original content.

If they are grabbing your content then you need to see if you can stop them.

If it is content that you syndicate for links then you should post different on your site than what you give away - or stop giving it away.
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Egol is about ranking better than the duplicates. In most cases, the copy cats will have poor popularity and they are unlikely to be ranked above you. Google in most cases must identify yours as the original source. The fact that so many people are copy pasting you means you are producing quality content. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

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If others have the same content as you then you compete with them for rankings. Is it hurting your results on Google? You bet, unless you have the most powerful website among the duplicates. Google the phrases in a few of your title tags and see if you come up #1 or at least highest of the duplicates.

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If you are using the same content source as your competitors then it is time to consider the hard work and expense of original content.

If they are grabbing your content then you need to see if you can stop them.

If it is content that you syndicate for links then you should post different on your site than what you give away - or stop giving it away.

If I submit one article to 10 article directories, what will happen?
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A ton of people will put it on their site, you will supply ammunition to each of them as your competitor, and they will be in competition with you for your valuable keywords.

Unless you are big and bad already, some of them will outrank you right away.

We do not feed our competitors and invite them into our space by giving them free content.

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Sounds like a valid point EGOL!

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What if i have 6 domain names that have my primary keyword? How best can i utilize them?

Can i have landing pages setup for all these 6 domains and have links back to the different sections of my existing main website? Will google consider this spamming or anything like that?

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I see also see alot of my competitor using the same text as I am, but we are selling the same product and getting these content from the manufacturer website. I notice the manufacturer will usually rank number #1 and usually the next website was the first company that use the same text in their website. If i spend the time to rewrite all my product description should I see a higher ranking.

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What if i have 6 domain names that have my primary keyword? How best can i utilize them?


Pick the best one. Develop it. Put all of your work into it. Let the others expire or hold them to keep competitors from getting them.


Can i have landing pages setup for all these 6 domains and have links back to the different sections of my existing main website? Will google consider this spamming or anything like that?
Links from landing pages to other pages have no value at all - unless the site with the landing page has a lot of links. If that is the case it is better to redirect the six domains to your main site.

We used to have lots of sites. Now we are down to one in each theme and we put all of our efforts into them.

Decide to KICK *** with one site rather than fart around with six.

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I see also see alot of my competitor using the same text as I am, but we are selling the same product and getting these content from the manufacturer website. I notice the manufacturer will usually rank number #1 and usually the next website was the first company that use the same text in their website. If i spend the time to rewrite all my product description should I see a higher ranking.


We throw their text away and write superior unique content. Fighting a sword with a sword gives neither side a huge advantage. Invent the arrow and shoot them from a distance - or attack treasures that they know nothing about..

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I just checked my website on Copyscape for Duplicate content and found out quite a few links for different blogs with duplicate content.

How can i fix this? Is this hurting my results on google?


In general, (rank-wise) duplicated content doesn't really effect so long as the domains with the content don't link to each other...

If (for example) you give articles to other domains to help promote your domain via the link - you are likely harming that development (from helping to develop better ranks) if you have the same article on your domain...

but there is an interesting thing here that you didn't note:
1. is the content actually yours?

2. did you borrow it?

3. if yours; did you have it placed on the other domains?

4. if yours; do you have links to your domain from the copies elsewhere?

If #1, #3, and #4 are true - you are best to remove the content from your domain... this will help ensure that the other domains are providing benefit to you domain

If #2 is true - you should replace with content that is actually yours

If #1 is true and #3 & #4 are false... you should complete DMCA takedown orders for each search engine and this will have each page removed from each search engine.
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I just checked my website on Copyscape for Duplicate content and found out quite a few links for different blogs with duplicate content.

How can i fix this? Is this hurting my results on google?


one more thing that hurts duplicate content only the article for example which was crawled will only be the considered as the original by the spider and the others will no longer give link juice...

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Duplicate Content Issues for Affiliates

...Fathom, another well-respected member of our SEO Chat forums, came up with four points you should think about in relation to the duplicate content:

* Is the content actually yours?
* Did you borrow it?
* If yours, did you have it placed on the other domains?
* If yours, do you have links to your domain from the copies elsewhere?

If the first, third and fourth items are true, then it's like syndicated content; remove the original from your site so you'll get the full benefit of the links back to your site.


That bolded part isn't really what I said, and isn't really accurate.

...syndicated content is based on an original being distributed via a RSS Feed, -- removing the "original" removes the original from the Feed and all syndicating domains thus no more syndicated content... so the quote I made isn't like syndicated content.

While I known that your example isn't really an absolute 'literal' translation - your target audience might think... "oh all these blogs have my content linking to me... I'd better remove it" ...and a bunch of those links - abruptly disappear.

Also because the feed is available to Google, the origin of the feed is protected... from duplicate content is never an issue for the original domain... unlike a non-RSS copy the original may or may not be fitered as a copy (usually the stronger page e.g. higher PageRank -- usually wins!)

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I see alot of my competitor using the same text as I am, but we are selling the same product and getting these content from the manufacturer website. I notice the manufacturer will usually rank number #1 and usually the next website was the first company that use the same text in their website. If i spend the time to rewrite all my product description should I see a higher ranking.

Or is it too late, because google already see my site or page as a Duplicate content page, even if we change the content and rewrite good article we will still not see higher ranking.

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