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Does Google deep crawl frames?
I just saw a post in which someone claimed that Google does not drill down frames; however, I have seen the frames themselves in Google results. Does anyone know if Google deep crawls frames?
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The page itself will be cached but it will not follow onto the frame src's
So all google will see is the <title> and anything in the <noframes> and thats how it'd included in listings.
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Re: Does Google deep crawl frames?
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Originally posted by "twins.fan"
I just saw a post in which someone claimed that Google does not drill down frames; however, I have seen the frames themselves in Google results. Does anyone know if Google deep crawls frames?
twins.fan
yes Google crawls framesets, all the frames and list them.
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Re: Does Google deep crawl frames?
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Originally Posted by mario
yes Google crawls framesets, all the frames and list them.
...but you will loose PR because the framed pages are more deep than frameset. Google don't like frames.
.....you are wrong!
most of our index-pages (noframe)have a PR5, all the frames incl. the frameset, which are below the index-pages, have PR4 and all the noframe-pages wich are also below the index-pages has PR4 also.
Why should Google not like frames? Frames are normal html-pages. Only the frameset looks different, but without problems in ranking. The only disadvantage on framesets is the invisibility in Google-cache-version. On the other hand they have a big advantage, the noframe-area.
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Google can only make results on the html given to it. If i were to have a pages something like the following.
<html>
<head>
<title>[keyword] brought to you by [company]</title>
</head>
<frameset>
<frame name="bill" src="page1.html">
<frame name="bob" src="page2.html">
<noframes>
[keyword] and content link to frameless brower friendly page
</noframes>
</frameset>
</html>
All google sees of the above is :-
[keyword] brought to you by [company]
[keyword] and content link to frameless brower friendly page
It doesn't include content from page1.html or page2.html, if its sees them at all is questionable, google may see frame "src" as links or it may not, i'm yet to be convinced. The page may be able to get a PR of 5 but this is due to the underlying pages and links, not the page itself, so any listing it does get is due to links, title and a little <noframes> so how high can it rank?
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Well jump, Google will take what is in the noframe tag as content, so theoretically you can in fact better optimize frameset pages than normal pages, as you are less concerned or inhibited by design and layout issues (no one will really ever see the noframe content).
However, there is also truth that framed pages, even highly optimized framesets, simply do not in general produce the results a well optimized unframed site will do. There are exceptions but they tend to be in un competitive areas or where offpage criteria scores particularly well. As well as the other well known usability problems frames have, you are very often far better off by ditching frames.
Although Google has no problems with indexing framed pages, other engines do. Basically frames WILL harm your site one way or the other. CSS or iframes are the modern se friendly solutions for what can be done with framesets nowadays.
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