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    Originally Posted by WizBit
    Kernal Panic,

    http://www.builderstown.co.uk/

    Ranking Number 1 in google UK for "Builders London"

    Please show me 1 half decent link pointing to this site.

    It is either directory links or blog comments that is ranking this site.
    Let's say they ARE ranking from directory links as you suggest, then if that's the case it's great news for you because a little work and you will outrank.

    The directory you suggested is a poor directory. There are a billion directories nickel and diming for $5 here and there.

    Don't bother .

    There are directories that are legitimate. Mostly I've found that they exist in professional sectors such as lawyers. You'll also find the odd local directory.

    They are also not very cheap.

    Remember, link building is a holistic exercise and you want to employ all tactics. Directory building is a tiny part of that process.

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    • ElectricPrez agrees : I think this is all I was trying to get at with my posts. Well put.
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    Originally Posted by distinctseo
    Let's say that ARE ranking from directory links as you suggest, then if that's the case it's great news for you because a little work and you will outrank.

    The directory you suggested is a poor directory. There are a billion directories nickel and diming for $5 here and there.

    Don't bother .

    There are directories that are legitimate. Mostly I've found that they exist in professional sectors such as lawyers. You'll also find the odd local directory.

    They are also not very cheap.

    Remember, link building is a holistic exercise and you want to employ all tactics. Directory building is a tiny part of that process.
    Good to see the thread morphed in to something useful but the original question was should whiz spend $5.00 on a particularly bad directory. The answer was no and it's still no.

    Niche directories with editorial review of some sort, yes
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    Originally Posted by WizBit
    WizBit disagrees: Your 4 replies are complete worthless and unappreciated. Now I remember why I stopped posting here.
    You did not want to post here because people disagree with you.... or beacuse people gave you negative rep... and now it is because you ask a question and do not like the answer given....

    What is it you actually want from people here? I am confused.

    I thought KP's answer was accurate myself.

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    • WizBit : Funny how nobody can even show me a half decent link on builderstown.co.uk. The replies on this thread are still worthless.
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    • sprintdriver agrees : Some of the Comments on the thread were informative and educational...Nice professional Respose..
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    Originally Posted by WizBit
    WizBit disagrees: Funny how nobody can even show me a half decent link on builderstown.co.uk. The replies on this thread are still worthless. .
    Why would anyone wish to when you have such a ungrateful attitude to anyone that says anything to you... In one thread you whine about negative rep being given out to you… and now you give it to me for simply asking you a question…. You are a very hypercritical… I personally do not see why anyone would bother trying to help you with your questions really……

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    • WizBit : And why exactly should i be grateful to someone that continues to disrespect me? What possible reason do you have to go off topic on this thread? start a new one and i'll be more than happy to contribute.
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    Funny how nobody can even show me a half decent link on builderstown.co.uk. The replies on this
    thread are still worthless.
    No offense dude, but if you don't like our answers, try posting on a crappy SEO forum.. something like analogpoint... (HA) to get some half assed answers with little to not support behind them.

    We're looking out for your best interest, we're not picking on you - don't be so sensitive about it man, just take some advice and watch your SERPs rise.
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    Directories work if they have good PR.

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    Still not convinced.

    Builderstown.co.uk ranking number 1 for “builders London” from directory links and blog comments.

    Allintitle:”London builders” 31,300 competing pages.

    Is there any decent links that makes this site rank number 1? Show me because I can’t find any.
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    Originally Posted by WizBit
    Still not convinced.

    Builderstown.co.uk ranking number 1 for “builders London” from directory links and blog comments.

    Allintitle:”London builders” 31,300 competing pages.

    Is there any decent links that makes this site rank number 1? Show me because I can’t find any.
    Then don't freakin' believe it and go submit your website to directories.. hell, here's a list to get you started:

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    It’s not the fact that I don't believe joshz. I'm just trying to learn here, and all I’m getting is snidely comments like go read the stickies.

    The site is ranking number 1 for "builders London" will the links be devalued? Probably. Can the competition copy the links? yes.

    The simple fact is that they are ranking number 1 from directory and blog comments.


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    Joshz if you wouldn't mind could you remove that list as I don't condone spam.

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    • KernelPanic agrees : haha That'll keep 'em busy for a few months
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    while i agree that directories are no good for trying to get you to rank i dont think that WizBit has been treated very fairly here and I understand his frustration

    i would that that "builders london" is a highly sought after search term (maybe not so much as 3 years ago) but i think its faily competitive - i use seomoz kw tool to determine competition for a phrase and they list this particular term as being "highly competitive"

    rather than offering WizBit an explanation as to why that site may be ranking no.1 for that term you have all appeared to just say "directories dont work", "here's the directory list, you'll come crawling back"

    all he's really asked for is an explanation, and you've all shot him down in flames!
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    Originally Posted by WizBit
    It’s not the fact that I don't believe joshz. I'm just trying to learn here, and all I’m getting is snidely comments like go read the stickies.

    The site is ranking number 1 for "builders London" will the links be devalued? Probably. Can the competition copy the links? yes.

    The simple fact is that they are ranking number 1 from directory and blog comments.


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    Joshz if you wouldn't mind could you remove that list as I don't condone spam.
    I don't condone ignorance, I'll remove my post as soon as you remove your thread. Fair?
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    Originally Posted by WizBit
    It’s not the fact that I don't believe joshz. I'm just trying to learn here, and all I’m getting is snidely comments like go read the stickies.

    The site is ranking number 1 for "builders London" will the links be devalued? Probably. Can the competition copy the links? yes.

    The simple fact is that they are ranking number 1 from directory and blog comments.


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    Joshz if you wouldn't mind could you remove that list as I don't condone spam.
    Originally Posted by kilburn2000
    while i agree that directories are no good for trying to get you to rank i dont think that WizBit has been treated very fairly here and I understand his frustration

    i would that that "builders london" is a highly sought after search term (maybe not so much as 3 years ago) but i think its faily competitive - i use seomoz kw tool to determine competition for a phrase and they list this particular term as being "highly competitive"

    rather than offering WizBit an explanation as to why that site may be ranking no.1 for that term you have all appeared to just say "directories dont work", "here's the directory list, you'll come crawling back"

    all he's really asked for is an explanation, and you've all shot him down in flames!
    It's been explained. There is as very low competition market for those keywords, there are not many sites doing SEO so ofcourse a few crappy links will boost it. Will it work now? Sure, will it last? HELL NO. 90% of those directories and blogs will be gone in a year and guess what, so will your SERP's.

    I don't know how else to explain it. Why Doesn't WizBit take time, initiative and dedication and do his own research into the links and reports back on his findings? Give me a break people.

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    • kilburn2000 : doesn't look low competition to me - granted it's not something like 'ink' but it's pretty competitive
    • KernelPanic agrees : Exactly!
    Last edited by joshz; Mar 15th, 2011 at 11:02 AM.
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    Originally Posted by WizBit
    It’s not the fact that I don't believe joshz. I'm just trying to learn here, and all I’m getting is snidely comments like go read the stickies.

    The site is ranking number 1 for "builders London" will the links be devalued? Probably. Can the competition copy the links? yes.

    The simple fact is that they are ranking number 1 from directory and blog comments.


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    Joshz if you wouldn't mind could you remove that list as I don't condone spam.
    It is ranking number 1 for a non-specific key phrase. As I said before you can rank that key phrase (well you probably can't) with VERY little effort.

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    • WizBit : they are still number 1 out of 31,000 competitiors. Is that your best answer?
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    Originally Posted by joshz
    It's been explained. There is as very low competition market for those keywords, there are not many sites doing SEO so ofcourse a few crappy links will boost it. Will it work now? Sure, will it last? HELL NO. 90% of those directories and blogs will be gone in a year and guess what, so will your SERP's.

    I don't know how else to explain it. Why Doesn't WizBit take time, initiative and dedication and do his own research into the links and reports back on his findings? Give me a break people.
    Really is that the best you can explain? its low competition?

    You seem frustrated with this. I'm just trying to learn from someone that can give me a better explanation that low competition.

    I consider the keyword to have high competition, now what? the site is still ranking number 1 either way.
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    Originally Posted by WizBit
    Really is that the best you can explain? its low competition?

    You seem frustrated with this. I'm just trying to learn from someone that can give me a better explanation that low competition.

    I consider the keyword to have high competition, now what? the site is still ranking number 1 either way.
    Dude is your name brickwall? That's who I feel like I'm talking to.

    yes, I see the competition, but the fact is those sites have done little to NOTHING to SEO their site, so sure, in this case you get some blog links OFCOURSE it will go up, there are no other sites with decent links competing. But WHAT WE ARE ALL TRYING TO SAY IS:


    THESE LINKS ARE WORTHLESS, ONCE YOUR COMPETITION GETS REAL LINKS, YOUR SITE WILL BE GONE WITH THE WIND! GUESS WHAT, AS SOON AS THOSE BLOGS UPDATE THEIR CONTENT OR YOUR LINK ROLLS OFF THEIR PAGES YOU'RE GONE.

    That site has links from some blogs and other crap, with no other sites doing SEO ofcourse the site will rank high. Let me take on a client in the same niche, give it 3 months and watch that site drop down in SERPs. Point blank. I'm done replying, if you have any futher questions, direct them to the complaint department, they are accessible by hitting the keys "ctrl" + "F4" thank you, good day.

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