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Old June 26th, 2008, 04:51 PM
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Anyone a member of Digital Point? I asked how they believe in getting a #1 googe ranking and they ALL preach to get article submissions, social bookmarking links, and directory links to your site. That seems to be the oppossite of what the experts say here. Whats the deal? How can a forum have such different views and personalities. They have like 10 people answering this poor guy who asked. How can I get my site to the top of google for a semi major keyword. Every answer is:

Article Submission
Directory submission
blog comments (make sure they are do follow)
social bookmarking.

RARELY do they say "RICH USEFUL EDUCATED EXPERT CONTENT"

SEOChat.com has the best SEO discussions in my opinion.
One guy, I said, "I don't believe that submitting to a bunch of directories is a good idea."

He replied "well do you think that the other ten posts are all wrong" and I simply replied,

YES!!!!

Anyone else feel the same way about DP?
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Old June 26th, 2008, 05:17 PM
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Truth be told... those same answers are in the majority here.

However, I believe that you can not win by duplicating the strategies of your opponents. You win by doing something different that distinguishes you.

This holds in the search engines, in retail and in war. Different weapons are the killer app. Contrary thinking wins in the stock market. Buy straw hats in January.

The reason most people don't go for content... they don't have the ability or patience to produce it.
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Old June 26th, 2008, 05:47 PM
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Anyone a member of Digital Point? Every answer is: Article Submission, Directory submission, blog comments (make sure they are do follow) social bookmarking.

RARELY do they say "RICH USEFUL EDUCATED EXPERT CONTENT"

Anyone else feel the same way about DP?
Perhaps the Google optimization section isn't the appropriate place for this post but it is somewhat Google related. I won't comment on DP because for me it isn't appropriate (that is just me).

Our most consistent discussion is links vs. content. Although this topic hasn't come up in a while. The train of thought is generally "good content - gets links".

A much more effective method than article submission (IMO) is hosting your blog within your domain, writing great content and distributing that content via RSS feed. Why write a bunch of great articles that someone else can post on their website when you can post your own? If you host your own articles and you are an active participant in a number of social networks you can get your content more exposure and thus more links.

In many forums including this one you have very few people who have #1 rankings for extremely difficult terms. You can get golf tips from the kid next door or if you go to your local country club you can get tips from your local golf pro. So you have to know how to separate the wheat from the chaff. One of the things about any forum is to look at the influencers and what they say. Follow their advice, send one a P.M. one and get to know him/her. You never know what you might really learn. The best SEO tips seldom come for free and certainly are as valuable as gold.
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Old June 27th, 2008, 02:27 AM
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DP.. ewww... full of n00bs, I was active there for some time..not much now a days.. its crowded, full of spam, lots of lurkers and those who own half baked facts..

Usually I do not follow any sayings of anyone @ DP, unless the member who posts something has enuff of rep, or has a fan following there, or I know him..

Also note, Simply saying Yes, or No at any forums isnt the best thing to do as that will land u up in a ditch with all the members kicking your hands off..

Explain them why the idea is bad, put up your view..and they will not have more words to say, then to follow u..(I assume you post the facts right) Not only for DP, but for every other forum, its your knowledge that rules.. Getting into arguement is easy, getting out is difficult, Only facts can help..

I would still say, those methods mentioned above as per my experience are more prominent in the asian market, India particularly.. but they do not work big time period

Ideas are a result of innovation and vice-versa.. like EGOL said

And lastly: Post for not posting, but to educate others , those who disagree now, will follow you later after they face the situations..
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I was once active on DP for a while, especially in the copywriting section. It was pretty useful but I've found other dedicated copywriting forums now, so I guess I've kind of outgrown DP

It used to be a nice forum until everybody joined it... I mean EVERYBODY. Like lovekills_s just said, there's lots of unreliable advice over there (which is why I left). Another problem with that place is the Politics & Religion section... talk about flaming!

But yeah, I don't want to talk a lot about another forum on here. So, peace y'all

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I have no time for it. I havent read one post which takes my interest and i think is accurate. Its a forum of just people thinking they know what they are doing. They post for the need of posting...

Why read their posts when you can read ones from EGOL, Fathom, Lovekills, SEO_AM, Europa and garrythescubaguy and of course a lot more who im neglecting to mention. We have less members but more knoledge. Which would you choose?

I would rather have a reply from a learned person then siff through all the rubbish to find a gem on DP.

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Anyone a member of Digital Point? I asked how they believe in getting a #1 googe ranking and they ALL preach to get article submissions, social bookmarking links, and directory links to your site. That seems to be the oppossite of what the experts say here. Whats the deal? How can a forum have such different views and personalities. They have like 10 people answering this poor guy who asked. How can I get my site to the top of google for a semi major keyword. Every answer is:

Article Submission
Directory submission
blog comments (make sure they are do follow)
social bookmarking.

RARELY do they say "RICH USEFUL EDUCATED EXPERT CONTENT"

SEOChat.com has the best SEO discussions in my opinion.
One guy, I said, "I don't believe that submitting to a bunch of directories is a good idea."

He replied "well do you think that the other ten posts are all wrong" and I simply replied,

YES!!!!

Anyone else feel the same way about DP?



well i was active member of DP. in my experience the things DP guys mention

Article Submission
Directory submission
blog comments (make sure they are do follow)
social bookmarking.

are not at all wrong. but yes i must clear that if it is directory submission ( i personally do not do ) it should be on manual submission directories. and should be on Dmoz kind directories.

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Content is king, good content always preferred by SE, but for more backlinks you can do article, blog, social bookmarking & directory submission.

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Content is king, good content always preferred by SE, but for more backlinks you can do article, blog, social bookmarking & directory submission.

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Was backlink building techniques the question here? I dont think so?
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Content is king, good content always preferred by SE, but for more backlinks you can do article, blog, social bookmarking & directory submission.

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What do want to say here??? DO you think this post is relevant to this thread.....?
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