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    Crawling Question


    GBot crawled a few more pages on my clients site.

    One of the pages was this:

    http://www.treasurejewelry.com/treasure_jewelry_sitemap_2.html

    It seems like it did crawl the links on that pages and some other pages as well. Inspite the content on the page is different, all the product pages are hidden under 'similar pages'

    Is it because the meta tag reads the same all across?

    Thanks
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    You meta tags and page title should be unique for each and every page if you want them to be indexed.
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    Damn - 400 pages of unique Meta Tags and Titles - damn again!

    Ledfish - there 14 yr old kids who are SEOs and visit this site. I don't think you would want your 14 yr old to click on the links you have in your Sig. Thanks for the suggestion though. Unique Meta Tag and Title for each page - no wonder I got SEOs quoting me $7k per year.
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    If your pulling info from a database, you should easily be able to modify your code to give those pages unique meta and title tags.


    If they are not database driven and are all hand done, you have some serious work to do.
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    Well it is DB driven but my shopping cart does not have functionality of unique meta-tags, can do titles though. You are right some serious work - I will charge the client accordingly ;)
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    If you can do title, then you should be able to modify the page code for the cart to at least duplicate the title in the meta descriptions tag. That alone should help greatly.
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    Just a quick question, does it matter which order of Meta Tags are in?

    Example;
    <title></title>
    <meta http-equiv="Pragma" content="no-cache">
    <meta http-equiv="Expires" content="0">
    <meta name="Author" content="www.domain.com">
    <meta name="ROBOTS" content="INDEX, FOLLOW">
    <meta name="description" content="">
    <meta name="keywords" content="">

    Thanks in advance.

    lilbit
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    Originally Posted by ledfish
    If you can do title, then you should be able to modify the page code for the cart to at least duplicate the title in the meta descriptions tag. That alone should help greatly.
    Wow - I never thought of that. You da man ledfish. Thanks
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    Originally Posted by lilbit
    Just a quick question, does it matter which order of Meta Tags are in?

    Example;
    <title></title>
    <meta http-equiv="Pragma" content="no-cache">
    <meta http-equiv="Expires" content="0">
    <meta name="Author" content="www.domain.com">
    <meta name="ROBOTS" content="INDEX, FOLLOW">
    <meta name="description" content="">
    <meta name="keywords" content="">

    Thanks in advance.

    lilbit
    These don't matter at to any search engine that I know of:

    <meta http-equiv="Pragma" content="no-cache">
    <meta http-equiv="Expires" content="0">
    <meta name="Author" content="www.domain.com">


    These remaining three don't matter much to google, except if they are indentical for every page or even a good number of them, some other search engine do still us them, so you might as well have them there.

    <meta name="ROBOTS" content="INDEX, FOLLOW">
    <meta name="description" content="">
    <meta name="keywords" content="">

    Finally
    <title></title>

    This one matters a whole bunch. You should never have two pages with identical titles period. Since the title decribes what a page is about, the only time two pages should have the same title is if they are duplicates and of course we all kow that duplicate content is a no no.
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    Originally Posted by ledfish
    These don't matter at to any search engine that I know of:

    <meta http-equiv="Pragma" content="no-cache">
    <meta http-equiv="Expires" content="0">
    <meta name="Author" content="www.domain.com">


    These remaining three don't matter much to google, except if they are indentical for every page or even a good number of them, some other search engine do still us them, so you might as well have them there.

    <meta name="ROBOTS" content="INDEX, FOLLOW">
    <meta name="description" content="">
    <meta name="keywords" content="">

    Finally
    <title></title>

    This one matters a whole bunch. You should never have two pages with identical titles period. Since the title decribes what a page is about, the only time two pages should have the same title is if they are duplicates and of course we all kow that duplicate content is a no no.

    ledish thanks for responding, my question was does it matter to search engines the order those are in? I know the Title is the most important tag and is always at the top, but what about the order of the other meta tags? please let me know if I'm not explaining this correctly.

    lilbit
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    Originally Posted by ledfish
    You meta tags and page title should be unique for each and every page if you want them to be indexed.
    That makes me curious, with over 1500 html pages, would you or anyone agree it would be better with no meta tags as opposed to the same meta tags on each (of course unique is better)? All of my pages do have unique title tags, but I can either place the same meta tags on all, or remove them all with my store. Thanks.
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    As for order, this the way I like to do it, but I'm not positive the order has to be this way to be good for you

    Title
    Meta Description
    Meta Keyword
    Meta Robots
    Meta Everything else


    Bluecat
    I would think just having a unique title for each page and then have all pages have the same duplicate meta tags would not be a good thing, but it might be ok with Google (I really don't know because I've never taken that chance) however not having them at all would be a bad thing as far as other SE besides Google are concerned. Given that, I think it is at least good to have it so that whatever is dynamically loading into your title is at least also loading into your meta description tag.
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    Originally Posted by ledfish
    As for order, this the way I like to do it, but I'm not positive the order has to be this way to be good for you

    Title
    Meta Description
    Meta Keyword
    Meta Robots
    Meta Everything else
    Thank you ledfish, I'm not exactly sure if the order matters to the spiders either but what you listed above is the way I have all my tags, was asking a question for a client. I tried to locate any mentioning of orders of meta tags anywhere and no luck of getting any real answers.

    Thanks again for your help and time.

    lilbit
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    Originally Posted by ledfish
    As for order, this the way I like to do it, but I'm not positive the order has to be this way to be good for you

    Title
    Meta Description
    Meta Keyword
    Meta Robots
    Meta Everything else


    Bluecat
    I would think just having a unique title for each page and then have all pages have the same duplicate meta tags would not be a good thing, but it might be ok with Google (I really don't know because I've never taken that chance) however not having them at all would be a bad thing as far as other SE besides Google are concerned. Given that, I think it is at least good to have it so that whatever is dynamically loading into your title is at least also loading into your meta description tag.
    Thanks, I appreciate the advice.

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