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Competator/enemy killed a sites income - scary
I was having a conversation with a person this morning. He was telling me somebody killed his income stream from adsense. He claims he adsense income was going well but suddenly he had his adsense account suspended. He claims that someone was deliberatley targeting his site and clicking on multiple ads from his site. This was happening from multuiple locations.
Scarey stuff. I dont suppose there is much that can be done. He was asking my advice. I asked if he explained to google. They just said they had reciewed it and the account was suspended. All outstanding adsense money would be returned to advertisiers.
Is there anything he can do. If not this is a clear case of an enemy/competator/disgruntled employee being able to seriously hurt your business....
I told him I would ask some friends but I didn't think there was anything he could do really. He was really upset says his adsense income was quite significant...
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Quite scary indeed. I have no better idea than to contact Google and try to resolve the situation.
It brings up the question why Google cannot detect and filter such events of click-fraud while leaving the authentic clicks unharmed. Sure, it's easy to demand a solution to a difficult problem from others, but there's a lot of money involved here...
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Here is simular stories from some of my friends - somebody using botnets, full of USA/Non-usa ip's to do "big clicks" on their sites from "zombie" PC's and Adsense/YPN suspended accounts for good without any payouts.
Here is no real protection from that, but from I heard - some of the botnets cannot access SSL sites, so if you redirect your visitiors to SSL site (https), they may help (at least in some cases).
Google recently started "cleaning-up" process of their "Publishers Network" - so, we have a competition now - some jerks get mad and starting this process of abusing other publishers.
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What i personally think the best way is to resolve the issue is with the google guys......google does maintain a ip log....ask them to check the ip's of from where the clicks are coming.......if they were able to tell you that the clicks are invalid they must have a system of telling from where the clicks are coming.......
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YPN pays better from what we see, but eventually they will do same things as Google for this matter.
About "keeping IP log" - it's may be good idea in general, but not realistic - those "zombie" PC's used in botnets added in 1000's every day - as result of infections by spyware/adware - it's not possible to monitor them and from google point of view, they looks very legit - DSL/Cable/Dialup connections and choice of IE/NN/Firefox - how you will be able to "filter" them from "normal" visitors ?
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Originally Posted by Visio
I use adlogger... so far I have had some click-fraud but I always report it before Google finds out and they remove the money and never had a problem.
Without proof there isn't much you can do. You could switch to yahoo...
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Originally Posted by gazzahk
I was having a conversation with a person this morning. He was telling me somebody killed his income stream from adsense. He claims he adsense income was going well but suddenly he had his adsense account suspended. He claims that someone was deliberatley targeting his site and clicking on multiple ads from his site. This was happening from multuiple locations.
Scarey stuff. I dont suppose there is much that can be done. He was asking my advice. I asked if he explained to google. They just said they had reciewed it and the account was suspended. All outstanding adsense money would be returned to advertisiers.
Is there anything he can do. If not this is a clear case of an enemy/competator/disgruntled employee being able to seriously hurt your business....
I told him I would ask some friends but I didn't think there was anything he could do really. He was really upset says his adsense income was quite significant...
Anyone else had this happen and resolved it?
I dont think google adsense is that easy to manipulate. Adsense will suspended an account if they deliberately click the ads on from the same ip. If from multiple account then it coming from multiple IP.
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Google Does Filter
I kind of tilt my head at posts like this. I know for me Google has filtered such requests. I have tested the links from my work, and some of my co-workers have clicked on my ads and Google doesn't pay me for them. It senses that it's coming from where I am. It does the same thing if I click on the ads at home. It will credit me with a click, but it will not pay me for it. So I'm not sure why Google didn't do this in this case. There has to be another reason why this person was dropped.
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Originally Posted by Technipages
I have tested the links from my work, and some of my co-workers have clicked on my ads and Google doesn't pay me for them. It senses that it's coming from where I am. It does the same thing if I click on the ads at home. It will credit me with a click, but it will not pay me for it.
This is like laying down in the street to find out if the cars will drive around you!
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he can contact the adsense support and tell them the story, if not he can go on and use any of the adsense alternatives and he will get the same income may be more.
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in his suspension email they sure give him a link to a contact form, they wont tell him the reason why his account is suspended, so tell him to read the email again and use the contact form to tell them the story.
( another way: create new account with another info. and get same domain with different extension .net or .org and forward his traffic and thats it )
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Originally Posted by Visio
I use adlogger... so far I have had some click-fraud but I always report it before Google finds out and they remove the money and never had a problem.
Without proof there isn't much you can do. You could switch to yahoo...
Hummm...
"Unfortunately the development of AdLogger has been put to a halt. Due to some recent changes in the Google AdSense program, AdLogger has been rendered inaccurate."
".............., I apologize that AdLogger is no longer in service as I know many of you have come to rely on it".