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Old October 13th, 2008, 04:17 AM
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I found the google has been updated very recently about 2-3 days before from today, After updating the Page Rank of my website tendernews.com has been down to 2 from 3 earlier, whereas it has been showing more backlinks 185 from 141. I don't know why its happened I don't know. Look on some possibilities that cause it got such effects...
  • Black Hat seo techniques
  • Link building from low valued pages
  • Content theft from other sites (spamdexing)
  • linking from penalized sites
If the above are the possibilities causes then I am sure about that these is not been worked to slashing my website homepage PR. I neither did black hat techniques nor I collected links from low valued directories.

I used blogging for linking Tehdernews.com . tendernews.wordpress.com is my lonely blog, whenever you check backlink link:tendernews.com , you got the half of its recognized backlinks are from wordpress blog.

Collecting a lot of links from blogs i.e. wordpress blog , is harmful?

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Old October 13th, 2008, 08:43 AM
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No, the links aren't harmful (probably not very helpful either). The most likely scenario is that the page that is now #2 made some changes/got some more (powerful) links that moved his or her page up rather than you doing something to move your page down. Focus less on blogs and forum posts and try to build relevant links. Take a look at the links that the #2 and #1 page have in Yahoo siteexplorer. Is there a way to get those sites to link to you too?
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Old October 13th, 2008, 09:58 AM
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It could be that you have done nothing wrong BUT your competitors are doing their job. Check out who is taking your position and check your links through google sitemap

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Hell SEOs everyone,

I found the google has been updated very recently about 2-3 days before from today, After updating the Page Rank of my website tendernews.com has been down to 2 from 3 earlier, whereas it has been showing more backlinks 185 from 141. I don't know why its happened I don't know. Look on some possibilities that cause it got such effects...
  • Black Hat seo techniques
  • Link building from low valued pages
  • Content theft from other sites (spamdexing)
  • linking from penalized sites
If the above are the possibilities causes then I am sure about that these is not been worked to slashing my website homepage PR. I neither did black hat techniques nor I collected links from low valued directories.

I used blogging for linking Tehdernews.com . tendernews.wordpress.com is my lonely blog, whenever you check backlink link:tendernews.com , you got the half of its recognized backlinks are from wordpress blog.

Collecting a lot of links from blogs i.e. wordpress blog , is harmful?
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Old October 13th, 2008, 10:09 AM
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Hmm, so far all the answers are related to SERPs, yet the original question is why has my Pagerank dropped.

Pagerank is related to incoming links only, so a drop suggests that either you've lost some incoming links, or those links you have are no longer passing Pagerank. It could be that those sites linking to you have also seen a reduction in Pagerank, or since you mention most come from blog posts then it could be that those posts are no longer on the blog homepage and thus further from the site's main Pagerank page (normally the homepage). It could be that the links have been devalued by Google as being "paid for" or intended purely to manipulate Pagerank.

However, since Pagerank isn't directly related to your position in the search results, then unless your traffic levels have dropped and you are no longer ranking as well for certain search terms, you really don't need to worry.

Oh, and I'd hardly call a drop from PR3 to PR2 a slashing. Your site could have been 3.000001 at the previous update, the reduced to 2.9999999 - the result would still have been a drop from 3 to 2 in Toolbar Pagerank, whereas your real Pagerank barely changed.
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A loss in PR is likely due to links to your site fading out or being lost.

The drop on SERPS could be from this as well or as others have stated your competition is doing what it should be, which is competing with you.

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In the last google update some things were changed for sure. Nobody really knows what, but a few things are repeated a lot:

1. Google devalued reciprocal links. You said that many links were pointing to you from wordpress blogs(you mentioned your blog at .worpress.com). If this is the case blogs hosted at worpress.com are linked between them through tags and maybe google devalued them and indirectly your site dropped some rank.
2. Google started a campaign against paid links. Maybe it's improved algorithms detected some of the links as paid links and devalued them.
3. Google lowered the importance of directories. Again, maybe your backlinks are not coming from directories, but maybe the sites from where your links are coming are getting some link juice from directories. Those sites drooped some ranking and indirectly your pages.
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Re:collecting a lot of links from blogs i.e. wordpress blog , is harmfull?

At 1st i wud link to thanks all of you ..
we never buy any paid link. I am still trying to get the genuine reasons. we didn't reciprocate any of link from the website tendernews.com yet it still puzzle for me. the ranking and the backlinks are increased remarkably but its searchable pages has been gone low. It is only cause our indexed pages increased but before this updation the searchabe pages was higer than now. If pages of a site goes more supplemented, does it affects its Page ranking. ?

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