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    Cloaking


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    I came across a site in which I found a links page with enormous links. And then I checked that page with Google Cache… the page cached by Google showed only part of that links page… I know some kind of cloaking is done there. Can anyone explain how is cloaking done. Is it possible to hide a part of a page from search engine indexing?



    Thanks in advance.
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    Originally Posted by Deepthi
    Hi,
    I came across a site in which I found a links page with enormous links. And then I checked that page with Google Cache… the page cached by Google showed only part of that links page… I know some kind of cloaking is done there. Can anyone explain how is cloaking done. Is it possible to hide a part of a page from search engine indexing?
    Thanks in advance.
    What's the url?

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    you just have to check if its the google bot visiting and then serve the bot a different site then normal useres would see .

    Googlebot/1.0 (googlebot@googlebot.com http://googlebot.com/)

    Google´s user agent

    Specific technic depends what script language you are using.

    But don´t do it, its against google rules and easily (as you did) detectable if you look a the cache.
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    Cloaking is serving different pages to search engines and browsers. Its simple,
    Use asp/php
    If
    user agent=googlebot
    show this keywords
    if user agent=slurp
    show this keywords
    else if user agent=ie/mozilla....
    show content only
    SEO is not SPAM – Matt Cutts
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    A question that comes out of this is:

    What about a multilanguage site that can detect visitor's country from the user's IP address and serve the pages in a specific language if it cannot determine it revert to a default (let's say english).

    Imagine this to work in DVD Movies e-shop. It could detect the visitor's region and display only DVD Titles with for that particular region. That way you could end up with completely different pages.
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    That's the type of cloaking Google and plenty of other "bid dogs" use, but if you're a little guy you should probably steer clear. All it takes is one of the nasty little whiney tattler type competitors reporting you to Yahoo and what not.
    It actually boils down to: Do what your users are going to love you for, and keep coming back for. If you have plenty of traffic generating mechanisms in place, then you don't have to care about search engines as much and you can do more of what you want to do instead of what THEY want you to do.

    If you are focusing primarily on SE traffic, then get in line son, suck in that gut, stand up straight, and DO WHAT YOU'RE TOLD!
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    Originally Posted by Gr8ted3s
    ... you should probably steer clear.
    Apart from your very good comments on this topic, I tend to avoid sites that try and serve me up their pages in "my" language - it just gets so damned annoying. How the hell do they know which language is mine or if I want information related to the place I happen to be at the time I make the search?

    Just because I'm physically located on planet Venus doesn't mean I speak, or want to speak, venetian (venusian? what do those guys speak anyway?).

    That goes for ads too, why should I have my ads served up to me in Plutonian when I do all my online shopping on Earth?

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    isn't funny that google does the same thing?
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    Woe,,

    You guys are way off track here.
    Without looking at the site i can tell you that its NOT cloaking.
    Dont jump to coclusions so quick.
    He said the page was masssive and only part of it was cached so there is a bit of a BIG clue there.
    When a site gets over 513k in google and 615k in yahoo they only cache part of the page.
    All it had done was grab as much of the page as it could into the cache and left anything over 513k

    Not everything can be blamed on something.
    7 people replied and not one had seen the obvois part of the op.
    He said it only shows PART of the page.
    Dont you think that it it was cloaked it wouldnt show any of the page or it would show all of the page?
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    That's probably right on Mick.
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    No doubt about it
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    Originally Posted by hazelj80
    isn't funny that google does the same thing?
    eBay too - but at least they give you a choice.

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    Well done Mr. Sawyer for pulling this thing back on topic

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    Originally Posted by mick.sawyer
    Woe,,

    You guys are way off track here.
    Without looking at the site i can tell you that its NOT cloaking.
    Dont jump to coclusions so quick.
    He said the page was masssive and only part of it was cached so there is a bit of a BIG clue there.
    When a site gets over 513k in google and 615k in yahoo they only cache part of the page.
    All it had done was grab as much of the page as it could into the cache and left anything over 513k

    Not everything can be blamed on something.
    7 people replied and not one had seen the obvois part of the op.
    He said it only shows PART of the page.
    Dont you think that it it was cloaked it wouldnt show any of the page or it would show all of the page?
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    another simple explanation


    Well, it might be another simple explanation:
    At the time Google catched the page that was all it was containing. After, the page was edited with the rest of the content. I continuously find older version of my pages in G. catch. (I've even recovered some content that I haven't back-up , and I thought I lost it...)
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    Mick's probably closer to the truth.

    For the record, I just posted because I thought the secondary discussion was more interesting...

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