Google Optimization
 
Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
 
User Name:
Password:
Remember me
Go Back   SEO Chat ForumsGoogleGoogle Optimization

Reply
Add This Thread To:
  Del.icio.us   Digg   Google   Spurl   Blink   Furl   Simpy   Y! MyWeb 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
 
Unread SEO Chat Forums Sponsor:
  #1  
Old October 22nd, 2005, 11:48 AM
derryt's Avatar
derryt derryt is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: UK/NJ
Posts: 641 derryt User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level)derryt User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 5 Days 2 h 57 m 50 sec
Reputation Power: 6
Send a message via AIM to derryt
Changes in Google.co.uk

I've long taken it for granted that search results in google.co.uk were pretty much exactly the same as results in google.com unless the "pages from UK only" button was checked. This was substantiated by long hours of checking both .co.uk & .com results for many industries over the last few years. There were rarely differences, and if there were, these were refected in the various data-centres results.

This is no longer the case.

It seems that during the recent update google.co.uk's results were tweaked to give results that are often biased towards the UK.

I first noticed this when a site that has so far bombed in the Jagger update—several #1 spots down to below 100 or 200 or even 300— reappeared in the top 20 of google.co.uk. I checked all the data-centres - site was still below 100. Checked google.co.uk again, still in top twenty. I checked I hadn't got the "sites from UK only" button checked - Nope. Deleted cookies, still the same top 20 results. Used different browsers, different machines, location, ISPs. The result was always the same - in the top 20 for google.co.uk, under 100 in google.com and no data-centres showed the top 20 result.

So I checked a few more phrases. Some were fairly different between the two, some mildly different, some showed no changes.

Then I got a few friends around the world to try it. I got them to try the same keyword on google.co.uk & google.com. They got the same results as I. Whether they were in the USA, Canada, Australia, Germany, or Switzerland made no difference – they got different results for google.co.uk & google.com.

The keyword in this case was "football". In google.com the first result is www.nfl.com, whereas in google.co.uk the first result is www.football365.com - which is about proper football ;).

I've tried several key words & phrases and the results are pretty consistent - Google.co.uk is often returning results that aren't the same as google.com - it's biasing it's SERPs towards the UK - and that's new.
__________________
Derryt

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old October 22nd, 2005, 12:02 PM
Urko Urko is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Birmingham UK
Posts: 69 Urko User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 15 h 26 m 31 sec
Reputation Power: 7
Hi,
well thats heartening news.
We're not seeing that yet for electronics related terms (the ones we monitor). Still lots of US/Brazil/Spain sites popping up, most of which weren't there before.
Update is still on going I suppose.

Also, we are seeing a big disparaty between singular and plural results - such as widget versus widgets, more than before this update started.
__________________
Cheap Mobile Phones

Last edited by Urko : October 22nd, 2005 at 12:04 PM.

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old October 22nd, 2005, 12:04 PM
sgroup's Avatar
sgroup sgroup is offline
:::::::::::::::::::::
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 846 sgroup User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)sgroup User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)sgroup User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level)sgroup User rank is Corporal (100 - 500 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 1 Week 3 Days 11 h 5 m 38 sec
Reputation Power: 6
I have seen this kind of results for a few years. The only thing that I feel is effecting the football results is the whois information.
__________________
** Do you want links on 10+ directories?
** Each directory is on a Unique C-Class IP & range from PR3 to PR5.
** If you are interested then Please Submit Your Site...

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old October 22nd, 2005, 12:12 PM
derryt's Avatar
derryt derryt is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: UK/NJ
Posts: 641 derryt User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level)derryt User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 5 Days 2 h 57 m 50 sec
Reputation Power: 6
Send a message via AIM to derryt
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgroup
I have seen this kind of results for a few years. The only thing that I feel is effecting the football results is the whois information.


I've never seen any significant disparity between the .com & co.uk results before as explained above. This difference is new. It doesn't just effect 'football', it effects a multitude of terms that last week gave identical results on both .co.uk & .com.

Last edited by derryt : October 22nd, 2005 at 12:13 PM. Reason: speeling ;)

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old October 22nd, 2005, 12:29 PM
Urko Urko is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Newbie (0 - 499 posts)
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Birmingham UK
Posts: 69 Urko User rank is Just a Lowly Private (1 - 20 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 15 h 26 m 31 sec
Reputation Power: 7
Re search "football", the top ten do look pretty much the same for google.co.uk and when selecting UK, maybe there'll be a roll out on other terms as well.

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old October 22nd, 2005, 01:36 PM
derryt's Avatar
derryt derryt is offline
Contributing User
SEO Chat Novice (500 - 999 posts)
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: UK/NJ
Posts: 641 derryt User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level)derryt User rank is Private First Class (20 - 50 Reputation Level) 
Time spent in forums: 5 Days 2 h 57 m 50 sec
Reputation Power: 6
Send a message via AIM to derryt
Quote:
Originally Posted by Urko
Re search "football", the top ten do look pretty much the same for google.co.uk and when selecting UK, maybe there'll be a roll out on other terms as well.


Pretty much the same yes, but not THE same, and the UK results aren't replicated on ANY data-centre.

Try beer, or government - UK biased results on google.co.uk for the first time.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Viewing: SEO Chat ForumsGoogleGoogle Optimization > Changes in Google.co.uk


Thread Tools  Search this Thread 
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes  Rate This Thread 
Rate This Thread:


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
View Your Warnings | New Posts | Latest News | Latest Threads | Shoutbox
Forum Jump



 Free IT White Papers!
 
How to Present Effectively Online
This white paper offers practical and actionable advice on the key steps that any presenter should consider as they plan and execute a Webinar or online meeting.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Open Source Security Myths
Open Source Software (OSS) is computer software whose source code is available to the general public with relaxed or non-existent intellectual property restrictions (or arrangement such as the public domain), and is usually developed with the input of many contributors.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Power and Cooling Capacity Management for Data Centers
This paper describes the principles for achieving power and cooling capacity management.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Scalable, Fault-Tolerant NAS for Oracle - The Next Generation
For several years NAS has been evolving as a storage alternative for Oracle databases, and for good reason: NAS is quite often the simplest, most cost-effective storage approach for Oracle. Learn about the benefits that HP's approach to scalable NAS brings to Oracle environments in this comprehensive white paper.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 
Understanding Web Application Security Challenges
This white paper discusses many common threats and preventive measures for Web application security, and explains what you can do to help protect your organization.

Request Your Free Technology Downloads!
 

Forums: » Register « |  User CP |  Games |  Calendar |  Members |  FAQs |  Sitemap |  Support | 
  
 





© 2003-2009 by Developer Shed. All rights reserved. DS Cluster 5 hosted by Hostway
Stay green...Green IT