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    change from http to https does google.......


    hi to all

    we have about 5 months old site and get good top ranking in google serps . but now we have to change from http to https . i m very curious to know whats effect of this on google serps . although i have check google ranking today seems to be good improvement in ranking . but not able to conclude that its because of this change or link building which is going at its speed .


    Please share yours latest experience with https and what precautions i should have to maintain the top rankings .

    All replies are heartly welcomed .

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    i am not sure why you want to transfer your domain from http to https, but well i think google will think that is a different domain, not sure but i think that he will do that.

    please correct me if i am wrong
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    I think it treats it as the same domain but i have no evidence to back this up.
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    i don't think it will have any effect as they both are the transfer protocols not the domain name
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    but i use redirect too.......


    but i use redirect so that http redirects to https . google showing results with https domains . i m too confuse . Please give me some helpful suggestions .
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    well but if you a http://ysn.com and http://www.ysn.com will google know what are the same domain?
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    i havent done something like that, but i think you should do a SEO for https, because google rank websites with especific url, if your site is www.you.com/me.html and you do seo for that google will archive the www.you.com/me.html as the main page for the keyword you opimize, and if you erase that "me.html" google will not change the url to other, he will keep it and if you dont replace it he will erase the url from the database because that url will be invalid.

    and dont redirect the url, its better if you make a click here button or something like that, google dont like redirects
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    Originally Posted by incdeveloper
    and dont redirect the url, its better if you make a click here button or something like that, google dont like redirects
    Google doesn't like 302 directs as they are seen as temporary redirects and could be the sign of a "lazy site."

    Implement a 301 (or permanent) redirect and all PR will be passed to the new address. Check this article for a more comprehensive set of instructions.

    http://www.tamingthebeast.net/articles3/spiders-301-redirect.htm

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    Doesn't Google exclude https websites from thier index?

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    Wow thats kinda silly actually. Google DOES exclude pages that start with https but will include a homepage sometimes if there are enough backlinks pointing to it. Also https pages dont receive any Pagerank, cache, backlinks, etc.

    https is reserved for control panels, shopping carts, etc and should be avoided with regular content pages. There is NO benefit having a site on https.

    Can I ask why your doing this??? Sounds kinda paranoid to me.
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    Originally Posted by pk_synths
    Google DOES exclude pages that start with https but will include a homepage sometimes if there are enough backlinks pointing to it. Also https pages dont receive any Pagerank, cache, backlinks, etc.
    Our site PrivaSign electronic signatures is https and has a current PR of 3 (its a relatively new system) on all of the pages, not just the main page.

    That said I would still like to see Google fully index the site. Even using gSitemap has not helped. Yahoo has indexed all of our pages.
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    I have a site that has an https page (application). The site does very well in Google, it's 6 years old, all the pages are indexed and fairly regularly visited by Google. But the https page was never indexed and has never had a PR. In face it has a grey PR bar.

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    From my experience google does not crawl ssl pages.

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