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    Can keyword randomizing just short of stuffing work?


    hi all,

    In May of this year my company was paying Google €25 per day to generate hits - approx 200 per day. When I found this out I said there must be away to get hits in the SMS Business without having to pay Google. So I developed a script that randomizes keywords, URLs, images and links.

    The short story - it worked and still works today giving the company (i don't work there any longer) over 250 hits per day for free).

    My question here is this - will this solution work on other sites or will Search Engines cop on to it and block it. I posted a website with the details and script - www.charlierobot.com

    Paul

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    www.charlierobot.com -> http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html
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    ... not that it's the first ... or will be the last :-)

    Any specific reason you're posting the URL here?
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    Agreed - what are you trying to tell us?
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    Totally lost here??


    Guys

    Why do you jump off the top .... and go straight to spam report??? No idea at all .... I saw another guy talk the same in another topic on this site.

    All I want is some advice? Thats all ..... but if all I get it this then I have no interest.

    Very unhappy ... totally

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    last post


    Actually can't believe someone would actually waste time and try and send a spam report because I wrote my URL. Highly stupid.... As I wrote from my mind and asked some simple question.

    As they say - what goes around comes around.

    Paul

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    Originally Posted by charlierobot
    Actually can't believe someone would actually waste time and try and send a spam report because I wrote my URL.
    Well, there's a fair bit of 1px text at the end of your page, maybe that had something to do with it, no?
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    If one of these guys doesnt report you your cometitors will. Clean yourself up and get the results the natural way (write usefull content so you deserve the rank).
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    SEM software .... finding a niche


    Yes you all are right.

    Yes as a coder I try everything to help clients get more traffic ..... and the old way worked fine. But now I know its not the best way. You see I want to make a product that will help customers, not have to do consultancy. As how many clients can on man do per month – 10????

    But since I have grow with clients I have now moved my software completely to secure SEO assistance. You see no matter what any SEO company does to make money they will get banned. As you can read here - Google bans BMW.de - http://edition.cnn.com/2006/BUSINESS...gle/index.html

    By arguing here over such small things, results in that Google actually wins in the end.....again.

    I develop good software and have many clients, who benefit well and are happy. As I said above and will say again..... ALL SEO COMPANIES WHO ARE SUCCESSFUL ARE TARGETS FOR ALL TO KNOCK DOWN.....lets knock down Google for a change....
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    just to confirm what I feel again....


    Search Engine Marketing is basically a term to assist companies to do better on Search Engines right????

    But to be honest ..... Nobody actually has a clue !!! as one minute you are doing well the next minute Google changes something and you are out of the Top 20.

    My POINT here is 90% of companies in the SEO business offer very little to clients REALLY, apart from editing metatags, copywrighting, keywords, links, etc. Which the client could actually do themselves. Its a funny business we are in as SEO is fully controlled by the Search Engines, and worst of all other SEO companies and experts can easily knock other successfull SEO companies so easy.... I could list at least 5 SEO companies who have made 400,000 plus last year .... and are banned now.

    I say lets try and do a SEO Forum where SEO people can join and start a real SEO system that will work..... and won't get banned by the engines.

    Paul - charlierobot
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    Originally Posted by charlierobot
    I say lets try and do a SEO Forum where SEO people can join and start a real SEO system that will work..... and won't get banned by the engines.
    Paul - charlierobot
    I think you'll find that it's already here!

    All you said is correct, IF you assume that all SEO companies are blackhat (like your approach was)!

    The key to quality (whitehat) SEO is in researching the industry / client / product and optimizing for the right terms.

    You can start by building a site with useful (preferably unique) content, that is well-designed, easily navigable and helpful to visitors.

    Then you promote it online (without spamming) and (eventually) get lots of natural incoming links.

    Next you also arrange some exchanged links with sites that are relevant.

    If you have an advertising budget you use it to pay for traffic spots on worthy sites (again research is necessary to choose the spots) and to pay for inclusion in "key" directories for your industry and for google ads.

    Yes any client can do it - given the time and experience...
    I could do my own accounts - but I don't... I hire an accountant 'cos it's his speciality and it saves me time... the same applies to SEO.
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