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Old June 8th, 2009, 05:28 PM
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Beat "domain name" equal to "search term"

Hi, I would like to ear your opinion on how to beat "domain names" equal to "search terms".

There's a trend to buy domain like what-people-search-for.com. Normally the first guy getting these domain rulez google on that keyword. They usually stuff the website with a poor desing/usability and keywords over keywords over keywords, that's it first place.
Is this organic?

I already tried the hell to pass websites like what-people-search.com.
Don't tell me that i'ts a matter of content, isn't!!!
- Im always improving content. Adding new content
- Page title, description, titles, content on anchors
- Internal linking strategies. Preventing duplicate content.
- Improving usability
- Gaining external links
- html erros, server codes
- bla bla bla

On the other hand the what-people-search-for.com looks always the same. 90 website. Is this the rule, older websites are golden?

how to beat a these websites?

What do you think? i would like the ear some experiences.

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Old June 8th, 2009, 06:19 PM
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Are you a niche shop as well? Or do you have other products?

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Old June 8th, 2009, 06:40 PM
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Basically I'm a web developer. One of my clients have a website, not an online shop, it's just a local service with a brand.com domain, presenting their services to users.

Can't beat the local-service-what-people-search.com .

Domain names weights that much to google? Does anyone passed throw a situation like? We've been trying everything, the only thing left if the domain, and I can't change that.

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Old June 8th, 2009, 07:54 PM
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You definitely need a keyword based domain name to compete nowadays. If you use your brandname you'll need millions of links to make up for it!
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JVRudnick disagrees: nah....that's not even CLOSE to being right, eh? poor advice it is!!
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Old June 8th, 2009, 07:59 PM
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You definitely need a keyword based domain name to compete nowadays. If you use your brandname you'll need millions of links to make up for it!
Complete rubbish!
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usef4u agrees: Its not necessary to have the keywords in domain name it add up a very little amount of benefit but
its not compulsory to have keywords in domain name
kiddz83 agrees: How many times does Google return "your-search-query.com" as the #1 or one of the page 1 results
when you search?
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Normally the first guy getting these domain rulez google on that keyword. They usually stuff the website with a poor desing/usability and keywords over keywords over keywords, that's it first place.
Rubbish... Most SERPs on google are not dominated bt KIDs.
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Old June 8th, 2009, 10:16 PM
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Hi, I would like to ear your opinion on how to beat "domain names" equal to "search terms".

There's a trend to buy domain like what-people-search-for.com. Normally the first guy getting these domain rulez google on that keyword. They usually stuff the website with a poor desing/usability and keywords over keywords over keywords, that's it first place.
Is this organic?

I already tried the hell to pass websites like what-people-search.com.
Don't tell me that i'ts a matter of content, isn't!!!
- Im always improving content. Adding new content
- Page title, description, titles, content on anchors
- Internal linking strategies. Preventing duplicate content.
- Improving usability
- Gaining external links
- html erros, server codes
- bla bla bla

On the other hand the what-people-search-for.com looks always the same. 90 website. Is this the rule, older websites are golden?

how to beat a these websites?

What do you think? i would like the ear some experiences.


Throw us a domain and a keyphrase we can look at... maybe we can help...

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Old June 10th, 2009, 06:20 AM
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gazzahk:
I think exactly like you, but these kind of links drive me nuts.

seo-sparky:
heres an example: www [dot] malta airport transfers [dot] com all together

search for malta airport transfers on google.co.uk

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gazzahk:
I think exactly like you, but these kind of links drive me nuts.

seo-sparky:
heres an example: www [dot] malta airport transfers [dot] com all together

search for malta airport transfers on google.co.uk


why dont u put targeted keywords in your URL like:

www.abc.com/malta-airport-transfers.html

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You are right that what-people-search-for.com rules the roost when it comes to dominating the SERPs'. But you can be able rank using other keywords
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You are right that what-people-search-for.com rules the roost when it comes to dominating the SERPs'. But you can be able rank using other keywords


If this was right than our (as in where I work) most recent project would be no where as most of our competition have keywords in their domain name but are lower than our branded domain

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It is something like a woman having name "pretty" will win the Miss Word Competition regardless of what her feature, intelligence level, looks etc are.

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kk bhakuni: Good answer.

I think I'm going to keep up the good work forget the domain name!

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Heres another opportunity to give me some negative feedback but keyword phrase domain names are the way to go to give you an advantage!
I dominate my markets because I do that along with lots of inbound links!

My first website was a car model name which I though would be sucessful but wasn't because people were search more generic terms. So I created a couple of keyword phrase websites and they now dominate the market so much so that competitors acknowledge my dominance and keep close to me because they get the business I can't cater for!

Now start you comments!
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JaneCompersNews agrees: You don't NEED a keyword phrase domain name, but in my experience SEO is much easier with a keyword
phrase domain name. Like you I chose to dominate the SERPs using this method.

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Heres another opportunity to give me some negative feedback but keyword phrase domain names are the way to go to give you an advantage!
I dominate my markets because I do that along with lots of inbound links!

My first website was a car model name which I though would be sucessful but wasn't because people were search more generic terms. So I created a couple of keyword phrase websites and they now dominate the market so much so that competitors acknowledge my dominance and keep close to me because they get the business I can't cater for!

Now start you comments!


I've done the same thing several times... It does work.

I've received negative feedback myself for presenting techniques that have brought me success. I think all of these guys must be Google engineers trying to stop the flow of information.

Ok... knock me down another notch.
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