Avoiding Sandbox

I want to start a new site but dont want to be sandboxed for 6 months. If I buy an established domain will this avoid the box or does google recognize the change in registrant?

No new site can scape sandbox, untless you use some BH tecniques, so whats for.... nothing to hurry.. you might scape the sandbox or risking it for some penalty..still, batlle on serps is not easy..

Target very less competetive keywords.. and keep a low profile yet natural.

Not even black hat can space to this filter. Why? well google sandbox activates when he makes the first visit to your website and if you are a black hatter you will be on google sooner or later, so this means than even them are on sandbox. What they do in most of the cases is try to get the most amount of traffic from all the sources they can get...

Buy an established web site.

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For a new site, build your site naturally and minimize the impact. Can you beat the sandbox? Yeah, but its a roll of the dice.

I personally recommend a hard and fast approach. Get your rankings in MSN and Yahoo and let Google follow later with a nice "Pop" into top rankings.

As a business owner, there is no need to starve because of Google.

If you buy an established site Google doesn't care about domain registrant info changing. Just as long as it is transfered to you and doesn't get dropped by the host before hand.

Low target sites(sites in a niche which have very low competition) escape the sandbox much easier. Good quality links will help you skip it or get out faster. Please read me article here: http://www.1stsearchenginerankings.com/2006/09/24/google-supplemental-results-and-how-to-get-removed/

It is too much info to post here....




That is incorrect. Many escape it.

I dont think you can escape from it... but there are way to avoid some restrictions, like making seo to low competitive keywords, and this doesnt means that you are out of it...

What coming from you I am very surprised. I would have thought in your time here at SeoChat you would have found out that you can actually skip it. I have skipped it with many sites. And believe me it was skipping it. I didn't just get out really fast.

What most people do when they want to escape a sandbox, they buy expired domains and build websites there. If those domain were onced indexed, there will be no problem to turn website back into play.

hmmm to start with G has access to HOIS data, they purchased a domain registrar a while back and it wasn't to sell domain names... if you know what I mean :0)

Also, Web Spammers make a living out of passing what people describe as 'the sandbox' ..Visio is quite right there....

Who agrees that by buying an established site I can avoid the box. Who recommends starting from scratch instead of buying an established domain?

Well i havent really make new sites recently.... ... well i still insists that you cant skip it it, just avoid it...

kasparoff is rigth if you buy a expired domain you can skip it... but what i am saying is that with a new and fresh domain you cant really do that, what you can do is avoid it....

just to make this clear:

skip: means that the website is not longer on sandbox at all
avoid: means that the website is in sandbox but his effect is not hard enough to effect a website ranking or rankings.

From my own experience getting links from trusted authoritative sites can help you skip right over the sandbox.

The hard part is getting links from schools, government or military sites.

My last two sites shot to number one within days of being launched and have stayed there over the past year.

Yes its true, but you will not skip it... what you will do is make the time range shorter.....

thanks, i really learn from it...... thanks you all, so much