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    Advice on how to test if popups are being spidered


    Can someone give me some advice on how to test what would be an effective
    way to see if Google is spidering a pop-up before launching this on a live site.

    Would I put this on a page that google has spidering and just watch my log files? what would i look for?

    The two code options that I have are.

    This one here uses html and resizes the window to the proper dimension.
    http://www.fullscreen360.com/popup.htm . this is not all that elegant resizing the browser
    window.

    and another person on the list pointed me to his

    <A href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=no&ie=UTF-8&q=site%3Awww.savio.no+tip&lr"]http://www.google.com/search?hl=no&ie=UTF-8&q=site%3Awww.savio.no+tip&lr[/url">http://www.google.com/search?hl=no&ie=UTF-8&q=site%3Awww.savio.no+tip&lr"]http://www.google.com/search?hl=no&ie=UTF-8&q=site%3Awww.savio.no+tip&lr[/url]=

    but I have not seen the page where this launches from.

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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    Google won't spider a popup, doesn't do javascript.
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    Originally Posted by Gator99
    Google won't spider a popup, doesn't do javascript.
    Here's a guy showing his poupups being spidered:

    <A href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=no&ie=UTF-8&q=site%3Awww.savio.no+tip&lr"]http://www.google.com/search?hl=no&ie=UTF-8&q=site%3Awww.savio.no+tip&lr[/url">http://www.google.com/search?hl=no&ie=UTF-8&q=site%3Awww.savio.no+tip&lr"]http://www.google.com/search?hl=no&ie=UTF-8&q=site%3Awww.savio.no+tip&lr[/url]=
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    Originally Posted by Gator99
    Google won't spider a popup, doesn't do javascript.
    And I'm that guy who is showing you that this statement is a myth. I can give you several examples also. Google are spidering popup's, and do at least pop-up like javascript's. Please don't post what you think is a fact if you don't know for sure, this can make many people running in circles wondering what's correct.
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    [QUOTE=dbdesign]Can someone give me some advice on how to test what would be an effective
    way to see if Google is spidering a pop-up before launching this on a live site.

    Some say it will some say it will not.
    Please post your finding here because i am curious.
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    popups and google


    why not use a target in the a href ?
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    Do you really need the popup?
    Could save time worrying about it.
    Last edited by mick.sawyer; Sep 17th, 2004 at 08:24 PM.
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    While I will not dispute if Google does in fact spider popup windows or not, I will provide you with an effective test case.

    Create a page on your site that simply spawns alphabluenineseven.html in a popup window. Link to this file from the bottom of your main page where no one will click on it.

    Inside of alphabluenineseven.html, put a single image tag pointing to a image (picture of your cat or something) with the anchor text "a picture of deltagreenthreefive".

    After a month or two, a Google search for "alphabluenineseven" will tell you if Google has learned of your popup page. A Google image search for "deltagreenthreefive" showing your picture will tell you that Google has indexed and ranked the popped up page.
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    Google won't spider a popup, doesn't do javascript.
    Google follows URLs in HREF attributes. So, it really doesn't matter if a page is a popup or a content page, as long as its URL appear in a HREF attribute.
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    Originally Posted by LowLevel
    Google follows URLs in HREF attributes. So, it really doesn't matter if a page is a popup or a content page, as long as its URL appear in a HREF attribute.
    Yep, that's right.

    You could have something like <a href="popup.htm" onclick="openPopup(this.href); return false;">Click here</a>

    Where, openPopup will be a function to open the passed URL in a window without toolbars and is the correct size, etc.
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    I've ran a test for popups at the bottom of the page here:
    http://www.studio360.com/virtual-tour.htm

    Link one was ranked in Google in four days. The other two links javascript did
    not get placed yet. It looks to javascript popups will not work. Although there is a
    site member that swears his work. Although each reference he mentioned is in Norwegian
    http://www.savio.no/ - see page bottem Tips en venn om Savio
    is this the solution?

    a site i found that simulates crawlers http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html

    Any more ideas on a final solution? Popup1 solution is not a elegant way of doing a popup.
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    Google's been spidering my javascript hrefs since I created the site.
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    Astracker,

    Thats great for you but could you share anything with me or the list?
    Its really doesn't do much good to post a comment like this and provide no feedback.

    Thanks for any advice or links to working url's you could provide
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    Originally Posted by dbdesign
    I've ran a test for popups at the bottom of the page here:
    http://www.studio360.com/virtual-tour.htm

    Link one was ranked in Google in four days. The other two links javascript did
    not get placed yet. It looks to javascript popups will not work. Although there is a
    site member that swears his work. Although each reference he mentioned is in Norwegian
    http://www.savio.no/ - see page bottem Tips en venn om Savio
    is this the solution?

    a site i found that simulates crawlers http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html

    Any more ideas on a final solution? Popup1 solution is not a elegant way of doing a popup.
    In the Savio.no site the HREF is:

    Code:
     javascript:MM_openBrWindow('/tip/tip.asp','openWindowTip','width=350,height=400,left=200,top=20')
    Maybe Google is parsing the /tip/tip.asp part of the javascript URL out and spidering it? Your popups had HTTP in them, so maybe Google ignores them if the HTTP is not at the start of the URL. Just a theory.

    See my previous reply above for a good solution.
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    Here is a pop-up script which is very SE-friendly (I've sent it to dbdesign by pm before). Beware that this example is using querystrings, so you may have to redo it if it's pointing to static pages.

    <script type="text/javascript">
    function ShowPopup(info) {
    popup = window.open("/default.asp?="+info,"MenuPopup"+info,"width=500,he ight=225,location=no,scrollbars=no,menubars=no,too lbars=no,resizable=yes");
    }
    </script>

    <a href="/default.asp?ID=26315" onclick="ShowPopup(26315); return false;">My Popup Link</a>
    This will open the popup default.asp?ID=26315, but as you see this URL is also a regular link.
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