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Old January 24th, 2007, 10:10 AM
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Cool #11 in Google and ZERO traffic? please help

Hey everyone, sorry I have not posted in the last week or so. I have been so into my link building that I have had no time for anything else.

Anyhow, I am finally getting towards my goal. For the last week I have seen my site in the number 11 spot for keyword "make money at home"

According to the overture keyword selector tool, that keyword gets search 13140 times a month.

My Title and description are a perfect match for the KW in my opinion. here is the listing:

Make Money Online|home based business
Make money online! Free information to start your own home based business and make money online!
www.successwithauctions.com/

Now, I would think that being in #11 is better than being in #9 due to the position on the page..but I am not getting more than one or two clicks a day.

Question:
What am I not getting? Is it possible the keyword tool is not accurate? Does anyone else have similar experiences?

Thanks!

EDITED: Oh by the way, I am #10 on Make Money From Home wich reportedly gets 9513 per month in traffic. I am starting to panic because my job rests on getting a lot of traffic from search. Enough so to pay for my salary at least WHAT am I missing?

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Old January 24th, 2007, 10:19 AM
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Hey everyone, sorry I have not posted in the last week or so. I have been so into my link building that I have had no time for anything else.

Anyhow, I am finally getting towards my goal. For the last week I have seen my site in the number 11 spot for keyword "make money at home"

According to the overture keyword selector tool, that keyword gets search 13140 times a month.

My Title and description are a perfect match for the KW in my opinion. here is the listing:

Make Money Online|home based business
Make money online! Free information to start your own home based business and make money online!
www.successwithauctions.com/

Now, I would think that being in #11 is better than being in #9 due to the position on the page..but I am not getting more than one or two clicks a day.

Question:
What am I not getting? Is it possible the keyword tool is not accurate? Does anyone else have similar experiences?

Thanks!


I am pretty sure you know that Overture is Yahoo data and as such is usually quite considerably lower than Google. I find Google is usually at least 10 times higher traffic.

Google is interesting or rather maybe searchers are. I had a 2 page-#18 ranking and got more traffic than when my ranking rose to the top of the second page. I have seen this with a few phrases so I am kind of mystified as to why as well. The theory that the 2nd page first few are better than 1st page last few rankings is not totally accurate. Remember that a goodly percentage of searchers never go past the 2nd page however WILL view the whole first page. It is said that most searchers will do another search rather than goto the next page so there goes a big percentage of your 1000 visitors. Than factor in a good percentage of those searchers finding what they want in one of the first listings. The best position has always been the 1st page even if it is the bottom. There are exceptions as far as traffic are concerned but if your on the first page at least your getting closer to the top right? Good luck with your site!
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Old January 24th, 2007, 10:28 AM
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I am pretty sure you know that Overture is Yahoo data and as such is usually quite considerably lower than Google. I find Google is usually at least 10 times higher traffic.

Google is interesting or rather maybe searchers are. I had a 2 page-#18 ranking and got more traffic than when my ranking rose to the top of the second page. I have seen this with a few phrases so I am kind of mystified as to why as well. The theory that the 2nd page first few are better than 1st page last few rankings is not totally accurate. Remember that a goodly percentage of searchers never go past the 2nd page however WILL view the whole first page. It is said that most searchers will do another search rather than goto the next page so there goes a big percentage of your 1000 visitors. Than factor in a good percentage of those searchers finding what they want in one of the first listings. The best position has always been the 1st page even if it is the bottom. There are exceptions as far as traffic are concerned but if your on the first page at least your getting closer to the top right? Good luck with your site!


Thanks for the good luck and you are right, i am very close to the top (considering where I was). I thought Google traffic would be a lot more than overture suggested which led to me being even more surprised that my traffic from these keywords are 1 or 2 a day. I guess maybe what I am looking for is reasurance that when I do get to number 3 for example, that I will be getting thousands of hits vs. 1 or 2 a day. I think i have done well on choosing my keywords. I'd hate to get up to the top and not have any traffic and be out of a job.

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Your traffic will also depend on the quality of the sites that appear on the first ten results before you too. That is a tough phrase because I'm sure I went through all of the top ten thoroughly my head would be spinning and I would probably not even look at #11.
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Old January 24th, 2007, 11:31 AM
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Your traffic will also depend on the quality of the sites that appear on the first ten results before you too. That is a tough phrase because I'm sure I went through all of the top ten thoroughly my head would be spinning and I would probably not even look at #11.


That's a good point as well. Thank you.

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Thanks for the good luck and you are right, i am very close to the top (considering where I was). I thought Google traffic would be a lot more than overture suggested which led to me being even more surprised that my traffic from these keywords are 1 or 2 a day. I guess maybe what I am looking for is reasurance that when I do get to number 3 for example, that I will be getting thousands of hits vs. 1 or 2 a day. I think i have done well on choosing my keywords. I'd hate to get up to the top and not have any traffic and be out of a job.


Well there is no reassurance. You got to make sure your title and description are killing. The title and description can be the most important part of SEO. Take a look at some of the Adwords ads and see what they say. The higher ones are the most clicked so you can get an idea what catches peoples attention. Apply this to your meta tags.

Do a search here for your keywords: http://adlab.microsoft.com/ForecastV2/KeywordTrendsWeb.aspx

Much better than Overture.

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Let us know how much traffic you're getting when you do reach some of the higher spots.

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The real root of this problem is *not enough backlinks*. Get back on the linkbuilding warpath, don't focus on the traffic at #11. Google now has those "Searches related to: " links at the bottom of most SERPs. This makes it URGENT for you to rank at least at #10.

Then be sure that you have kickass title tags that will attract the clicks big time.... offer free beer, dancing girls, whatever your clients might find seductive or appealing.

You can also run adwords to get a real idea if there is any traffic in the SERPs that you are trying to climb.
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You can also run adwords to get a real idea if there is any traffic in the SERPs that you are trying to climb.


Is overture not a decent way of figuring this out?

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I think that overture will give you a good idea of search volume most of the time.

Search volume is not always a good indicator of the amount of traffic that you will get. If one of the very top sites has kickass content that answers everyone's questions, you can rank as high as #4 and get very little traffic.

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Nice site...

I am suprised you are doing that well really you dont have that many links. Most of your links seem to be comming form just a couple of sites.

Going to be hard work to get higher. But s'pose you already know that.

A possible suggestion may be to try some more geotargetted landing pages on your site.

I read through the first page of google and must admit by time I got to your site I was pretty tired of being told how easy it is to make money at home.

Anyway .. sorry I am little help.

If its your own site keep working eventally it will happen.

If your are working for others just tell them it takes time

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Oh by the way, I am #10 on Make Money From Home wich reportedly gets 9513 per month in traffic. I am starting to panic because my job rests on getting a lot of traffic from search. Enough so to pay for my salary at least WHAT am I missing?


You read keyword tools too literally.

An education guess... there isn't 9,500 searches for Make Money From Home per year in all search engines.

I would guess that home business would be a broadly focus term that get more... generally people search for something specific not "where do I want to go today to make me rich".

BTW... Make Money From Home - how well are you doing in this business area? Surely it's a sign of the times... search users are far more sophisticated.

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All very good points and tips. Thank you again. I will be hitting the link building war path even more than I have in the past.

Thanks again for taking the time to help me out....it has helped a lot.

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BTW... Make Money From Home - how well are you doing in this business area? Surely it's a sign of the times... search users are far more sophisticated.


LOL..obvisouly I am not doing well. although the site has to be in the business area. Still, I do have high hopes.

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For some of my KWs #10 performs much better than #11. As much as 1000 or so visits a month for 1 KW. And others I have rankings that dropped from top 10 to #18 and the traffic is about the same. So I guess who knows.

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