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Old October 13th, 2004, 10:56 PM
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Prohibited Uses of Adsense - SEO?
I read http://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms

Prohibited Uses. You shall not, and shall not authorize or encourage any third party to: (i) directly or indirectly generate queries, impressions of or clicks on any Search Results and/or Ad(s) through any automated, deceptive, disingenuous or fraudulent means, including but not limited to through repeated manual clicks, the use of robots or other automated query tools and/or computer generated search requests, and/or
the fraudulent use of other search engine optimization services and/or software;


Can anyone explain this? Is SEO banned for adsense sites, such as keyword spam?
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read the sentence in its proper context.

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the fraudulent use of other search engine optimization services and/or software;


meaning only the fraudulent use.

I dont know what you'd class as fraudulent use, maybe no doorways or redirects?, but i guess it just means be nice and play by the google guidelines in general.
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I dont know what you'd class as fraudulent use, maybe no doorways or redirects?, but i guess it just means be nice and play by the google guidelines in general.

I am worried, because a lot of SEO can be seen as smart in some people's eyes, and spam in others. I go to http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html

Quality Guidelines - Basic principles:
  • Make pages for users, not for search engines. Don't deceive your users, or present different content to search engines than you display to users.
  • Avoid tricks intended to improve search engine rankings. A good rule of thumb is whether you'd feel comfortable explaining what you've done to a website that competes with you. Another useful test is to ask, "Does this help my users? Would I do this if search engines didn't exist?"
  • Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad neighborhoods" on the web as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links.
  • Don't use unauthorized computer programs to submit pages, check rankings, etc. Such programs consume computing resources and violate our terms of service. Google does not recommend the use of products such as WebPosition Gold™ that send automatic or programmatic queries to Google.
Quality Guidelines - Specific recommendations:
  • Avoid hidden text or hidden links.
  • Don't employ cloaking or sneaky redirects.
  • Don't send automated queries to Google.
  • Don't load pages with irrelevant words.
  • Don't create multiple pages, subdomains, or domains with substantially duplicate content.
  • Avoid "doorway" pages created just for search engines, or other "cookie cutter" approaches such as affiliate programs with little or no original content.
"Does this help my users? Would I do this if search engines didn't exist?"

means every SEO is evil in google's eyes.
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"Does this help my users? Would I do this if search engines didn't exist?"

means every SEO is evil in google's eyes.


I dont know about you, but getting more backlinks to my site?
Yeah, actually, id probably do more of it, since there would be no search engines for people to find my site on. Id have to get visitors anyway I could.

Maybe a lot of us wouldnt be so concerned about onpage optimization, but then again, we'd all have less visitors so we would all be pushing for a higher conversion rate to make our incomes.

IMO, i dont think google frowns on us. They set the standard, we follow their rules..

Its their game, we're just the players.
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I dont know about you, but getting more backlinks to my site?
Yeah, actually, id probably do more of it, since there would be no search engines for people to find my site on. Id have to get visitors anyway I could.

Maybe a lot of us wouldnt be so concerned about onpage optimization, but then again, we'd all have less visitors so we would all be pushing for a higher conversion rate to make our incomes.

IMO, i dont think google frowns on us. They set the standard, we follow their rules..

Its their game, we're just the players.


I don't have many backlinks. All pages are onpage SEOed - the SEO content is about 90% of size of the page. I am really worried. See so many people got their adsense banned without knowing what happened. I wonder if google is allowing adsense on spam or highly SEOed sites. Will google ask to remove adsense codes, suspend the account or shut it down completely? I have not seen any site closed for being spam. Most banned cases are because they have invalid clicks.
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All pages are onpage SEOed - the SEO content is about 90% of size of the page.


i dont know what this means? :
can you post your url, so that we can have a look to see if you've gone overboard or not with optimising.?

if you dont want google to follow it from here you can post your url like this www*domain*com.
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i dont know what this means? :
can you post your url, so that we can have a look to see if you've gone overboard or not with optimising.?

if you dont want google to follow it from here you can post your url like this www*domain*com.

What kind of problem I will run into, if I post a URL in plain format? Google follow links here and ban them?
By the way, after reading Owen's story, I took down my 1 week old site. If you consider on the first day it is shown in Google, we got 600 uniqu hits.
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What kind of problem I will run into, if I post a URL in plain format? Google follow links here and ban them?
By the way, after reading Owen's story, I took down my 1 week old site. If you consider on the first day it is shown in Google, we got 600 uniqu hits.


There is no problem with posting links, only if your site has been banned, as we dont want seo chat to link to banned sites.
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I try to use adsense in ways that no one would ever question. First, I don't want google to close my adsense account for a violation - it is a very important source of income. And, second I am an adwords advertiser and would not do anything with adsense that I would not want done with the content site ads that I pay for.

Are my sites with adsense SEOed - sure, nothing wrong with that. Have I experimented with page location, format and color to determine what brings the highest yeild - you bet and it pays big time.
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http://www.mia-marketing.com/stock/index9.html
Anyone knows if the action is within adsense TOS? Is it SEOed too much?
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