SEO Chat Forums http://forums.seochat.com/ SEO Chat - The home of all Search Engine Optimization resources. Aside from being the home of the popular Google-Dance tool, Seo Chat also contains a library of articles on topics such as Search Engine Keywords, Directories, Link Development, Marketing, Optimization, Promotion, News, Spiders, Submission, and more. en Sun, 19 Nov 2017 18:19:37 GMT vBulletin 60 http://forums.seochat.com/images/misc/rss.png SEO Chat Forums http://forums.seochat.com/ HTML5 for seo http://forums.seochat.com/google-optimization-7/html5-search-engine-optimization-493693.html Sun, 19 Nov 2017 08:45:06 GMT my title

My paragraph of text

And we might have it in a page that contains a header and footer
My logo and strap
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Lets keep the idea simple. One title and one paragraph of text.

As html 4

<h1>my title</h1>
<p>My paragraph of text</p>

And we might have it in a page that contains a header and footer

<div>My logo and strap</div>
<h1>my title</h1>
<p>My paragraph of text</p>
<div>footer details</div>

If we move it to html5 we now have some additional elements to help...

So you might convert to

<header><h1>logo and strap</h1></header>
<article>
<h1>my title</h1>
<p>My paragraph of text</p>
</article>
<footer>footer details</footer>

Now technically thats ok, but when Google see the markup its going to see logo and strap either as the 'main' title or worse still pretty much ignore <h1>my title</h1>

This is because in the html5 documents, <header> does not really mean 'top of the page', but the header to the most 'important' part of our content.

So recently I implemented (there is other content on my page, but to keep it simple)

<div>my logo and strap</div>
<article>
<header>
<h1>my title</h1>
<p>My paragraph of text</p>
</header>
</article>
<footer>footer details</footer>

Part of what I want to do with SEO copy is have my h1 seo copy as close to the supporting text as possible, so my fixation with putting a h1 (seo phrase) at the top of the source has to stop.

In addition if we accept that Google 'understands' html5 markup, then the function of <header> is not that different to <h1> and in that respect for the example page its not actually at the top but further down where the contact starts...

What Im interested in hearing about is from people who disagree with this idea and most importantly why?

Wont be offended and will really appreciate answers as Im fascinated with how HTML5 markup impacts SEO in away that just does not happen in HTML4. ]]>
Google Optimization Toxitalk http://forums.seochat.com/google-optimization-7/html5-search-engine-optimization-493693.html
Getting Unknows urls as crawling errors http://forums.seochat.com/search-engine-optimization-28/getting-unknows-urls-crawling-errors-493671.html Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:18:02 GMT My website robot.txt file is open to all search engines few months back.. and also my server folders permisions were open to all (we couldnt analyze it..its our bad) . And after few days we found crawling errors on google search console, that our website been crawling with unknown URLS. which are... My website robot.txt file is open to all search engines few months back.. and also my server folders permisions were open to all (we couldnt analyze it..its our bad) . And after few days we found crawling errors on google search console, that our website been crawling with unknown URLS. which are not in our database...but now we are secured our server permissions and robots.txt..... But the problem is.. still those unknown URLS are getting on google search console crawling errors. Can someone help us ]]> Search Engine Optimization Anjana http://forums.seochat.com/search-engine-optimization-28/getting-unknows-urls-crawling-errors-493671.html Log-in page ranking instead of homepage due to high traffic on login page! How to avo http://forums.seochat.com/google-optimization-7/log-page-ranking-instead-homepage-due-high-traffic-login-page-how-avo-493670.html Fri, 17 Nov 2017 07:16:25 GMT Hi all, Our log-in page is ranking in SERP instead of homepage and some times both pages rank for the primary keyword we targeted. We have even dropped. I am looking for a solution for this. Three points here to consider is: 1. Our log-in page is the most visited page and landing page on... Hi all,

Our log-in page is ranking in SERP instead of homepage and some times both pages rank for the primary keyword we targeted. We have even dropped. I am looking for a solution for this. Three points here to consider is:

  1. Our log-in page is the most visited page and landing page on the website.
  2. Even there is the primary keyword in this page or not; same scenario continues
  3. Log-in page is the first link bots touch when they crawling any page of our website as log-in page is linked on top navigation menu


If we move login page to sub-domain, will it works? I am worrying that we loose so much traffic to our website which will be taken away from log-in page sub domain

Please guide with your valuable suggestions.

Thanks ]]>
Google Optimization satish.seo http://forums.seochat.com/google-optimization-7/log-page-ranking-instead-homepage-due-high-traffic-login-page-how-avo-493670.html
Block Part of Page from Google/Bing/Yahoo Idex http://forums.seochat.com/search-engine-optimization-28/block-part-page-google-bing-yahoo-idex-493657.html Thu, 16 Nov 2017 16:00:57 GMT Hi,

I would like to block part of a website page from Google/Bing/Yahoo index. Is this possible?

I found a resource that recommends putting the "blocked" content in an html file, like excluded.html, and using an iframe to add the content to the landing page. Has anyone tried this?

Here's the resource:

<snipped>

Thanks! ]]>
Search Engine Optimization ges7408 http://forums.seochat.com/search-engine-optimization-28/block-part-page-google-bing-yahoo-idex-493657.html
onsite internal Linking Impacts http://forums.seochat.com/search-engine-optimization-28/onsite-internal-linking-impacts-493655.html Thu, 16 Nov 2017 12:52:10 GMT Hey Guys! how many times we can use a page link on other page? i linked same url 2 to 3 times on a page(for example a url is linked on an image, image title and image caption) is there any bad impact on seo regarding Google? is Google discourage this method? Please help me out Hey Guys!
how many times we can use a page link on other page?
i linked same url 2 to 3 times on a page(for example a url is linked on an image, image title and image caption)
is there any bad impact on seo regarding Google?
is Google discourage this method?
Please help me out ]]>
Search Engine Optimization najam.nisa http://forums.seochat.com/search-engine-optimization-28/onsite-internal-linking-impacts-493655.html
Different meta for different keywords http://forums.seochat.com/search-engine-optimization-28/different-meta-different-keywords-493651.html Thu, 16 Nov 2017 09:24:32 GMT I was just observing my competitors website and saw something strange. For 2 different keywords the meta description in the SERP were different. Please anyone can help me with this doubt? I was just observing my competitors website and saw something strange. For 2 different keywords the meta description in the SERP were different.
Please anyone can help me with this doubt? ]]>
Search Engine Optimization engiketer http://forums.seochat.com/search-engine-optimization-28/different-meta-different-keywords-493651.html
Using rel canonical and redirect between 3 pages! How Google responds? http://forums.seochat.com/google-optimization-7/using-rel-canonical-redirect-between-3-pages-how-google-responds-493637.html Wed, 15 Nov 2017 08:59:22 GMT Hi all,

We have 3 pages with similar topics. Let's say A, B and C. A and B pages have more similar content but C is little away. We would like to use rel canonical to avoid ranking these 3 pages in search results. As per the scenario, we must use rel canonical between A & B; but I want to highlight page C. So I am planning to rel canonical from A to C and redirect B to C. If B is left still, rel canonical might be ignored by Google. Is this correct way to proceed with?

Thanks ]]>
Google Optimization satish.seo http://forums.seochat.com/google-optimization-7/using-rel-canonical-redirect-between-3-pages-how-google-responds-493637.html
Getting unknown urls in Crawling errors? http://forums.seochat.com/google-optimization-7/getting-unknown-urls-crawling-errors-493631.html Wed, 15 Nov 2017 05:57:54 GMT When ever i am checking crawling errors on google webmaster tools, it shows some unknown urls which are not in my website. example links: http://www.example.com/shopbrand/004/002/X http://www.example.com/shopdetail/003003000022 http://www.example.com/shop/shopbran...%83%8F%83C%83g... When ever i am checking crawling errors on google webmaster tools, it shows some unknown urls which are not in my website.
example links:
http://www.example.com/shopbrand/004/002/X
http://www.example.com/shopdetail/003003000022
http://www.example.com/shop/shopbran...%83%8F%83C%83g
http://www.example.com/shop/basket.html
http://www.example.com/shopbrand/ct608

Here /shopbrand, /shopdetail, /shop , /shop/basket urls are not in my website. why iam getting these urls in crawling errors? ]]>
Google Optimization Anjana http://forums.seochat.com/google-optimization-7/getting-unknown-urls-crawling-errors-493631.html
How to get traffic and improve my stuck rankings? http://forums.seochat.com/search-engine-optimization-28/how-get-traffic-improve-my-stuck-rankings-493629.html Wed, 15 Nov 2017 04:06:56 GMT I have been working upon a set of 10 keywords of which 1 is appearing on first page while the rest are almost within rank 60. I am performing off-page like article, PPT, PR submissions and so on including strategies which are must for traffic and backlinks, and still Iím not gaining expected... I have been working upon a set of 10 keywords of which 1 is appearing on first page while the rest are almost within rank 60. I am performing off-page like article, PPT, PR submissions and so on including strategies which are must for traffic and backlinks, and still Iím not gaining expected traffic and improvement in ranking.
Can any webmaster help me out? Need genuine response! ]]>
Search Engine Optimization NaseemKaloo http://forums.seochat.com/search-engine-optimization-28/how-get-traffic-improve-my-stuck-rankings-493629.html
Additional buttons on local listings? http://forums.seochat.com/search-engine-optimization-28/additional-buttons-local-listings-493627.html Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:49:27 GMT Hey guys, Does anyone know if you can have multiple buttons on google places listings like: https://cl.ly/3O2M0S2D081H Such as booking, or can you only have website and direction? Cheers. Hey guys,

Does anyone know if you can have multiple buttons on google places listings like:

https://cl.ly/3O2M0S2D081H

Such as booking, or can you only have website and direction?

Cheers. ]]>
Search Engine Optimization Novatronic http://forums.seochat.com/search-engine-optimization-28/additional-buttons-local-listings-493627.html
Correct markup http://forums.seochat.com/google-optimization-7/correct-markup-493623.html Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:20:34 GMT This is going to be my last thread on the topic as I think I have done this now to death. So with my site websitesbymark. co .uk at the top in the header is my main H Im using for seo. It has been suggested that this needs to be where the content is (Maybe as far down as where Fantastic... This is going to be my last thread on the topic as I think I have done this now to death.

So with my site websitesbymark. co .uk at the top in the header is my main H Im using for seo.

It has been suggested that this needs to be where the content is (Maybe as far down as where Fantastic adaptive.. starts..)

Idea being that all the content is together...

At the moment the 'banner' above is a scetion, the bit which starts Fantastic adaptive is a section and so on..

Just wondering rather than having loads of sections, this should be one section/article.

The nav at the bottom im happy is in its own aside, but its more Im wondering if everything under the header and above the nav should be a single section?

Or is having lots of sections the right way to go..? (Im unclear how Google treats mutliple sections on a page v one large one..)

I know someone is going to say article, but in theory articles are more for news items etc..

This page is targeting 'web design dorset' so the bits I want Google to take notice of is the H1 + everything under the nav to just about the bottom nav.

Thanks in advance. ]]>
Google Optimization Toxitalk http://forums.seochat.com/google-optimization-7/correct-markup-493623.html
Tool or professional? http://forums.seochat.com/google-optimization-7/tool-professional-493608.html Tue, 14 Nov 2017 08:37:15 GMT Thanks for everyone's help over the last few posts..

I currently use SEO Proflier and I have a copy of IBP installed on my machine.

I find both tools good as they give you some concrete things to change and check against.

Currently Im at the limit as what they can provide and I need something else to push things forward.

I know people are going to say things like 'use Moz its amazing..', but to be honest I don't think they add much beyond what SEO Profiler does..

Just tried a few online tools and all I get from them is 'technically your site is amazing..'

So as Im a web designer with an interest in SEO, should I be considering looking at a professional or company to help?

My issue is that we have never really marked up the work, so I simply don't have the thousands a month to throw at it.

Can I have some suggestions as to my way forward?

I.e. if I can only afford the £50 a month, then just keep with the tool as anyone decent is going to cost a lot more.

And for a small Web designer, looking to target a couple of locations, what sort of monthly budget do I need to consider? (Not major cities, more large town size)

Finally for someone with a tiny budget what are my options with regards to outside help? (i.e. do I just chance it with fivr.com and buy link building)

Thank you in advance. ]]>
Google Optimization Toxitalk http://forums.seochat.com/google-optimization-7/tool-professional-493608.html
Crawl Errors Report 404 pages http://forums.seochat.com/search-engine-optimization-28/crawl-errors-report-404-pages-493604.html Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:40:37 GMT Hi guys! How Google gets 404 page errors for any search query on website? for example i have a search function on website for searching ads, if someone make a search for ad and didnt get relevant result. then how google immediatly fetch that page and show 404 error page in webmaster tool. please... Hi guys!
How Google gets 404 page errors for any search query on website?
for example i have a search function on website for searching ads, if someone make a search for ad and didnt get relevant result. then how google immediatly fetch that page and show 404 error page in webmaster tool.
please help me out.
Thank you! ]]>
Search Engine Optimization najam.nisa http://forums.seochat.com/search-engine-optimization-28/crawl-errors-report-404-pages-493604.html
ORM on Keywords http://forums.seochat.com/search-engine-optimization-28/orm-keywords-493593.html Mon, 13 Nov 2017 11:34:29 GMT On My keywords Few Reputed News Site Article are Showing ....How can i put these article Down? I Mean ORM. Please Reply News site like Times Of India, The Hindu etc We need urgent to Down these site as it harming our Website Reputation Please help Me Thanks to Advance your Time !! On My keywords Few Reputed News Site Article are Showing ....How can i put these article Down? I Mean ORM.
Please Reply News site like Times Of India, The Hindu etc

We need urgent to Down these site as it harming our Website Reputation

Please help Me Thanks to Advance your Time !! ]]>
Search Engine Optimization NikitaLove http://forums.seochat.com/search-engine-optimization-28/orm-keywords-493593.html
Adding header tags without text in between. Best practice? http://forums.seochat.com/google-optimization-7/adding-header-tags-without-text-between-best-practice-493591.html Mon, 13 Nov 2017 09:37:16 GMT Hi, I would like to know the best practice in employing the header tags for sub headings. Is it Okay to add header tags followed by lower level header tags without text in between? I mean like the below example: SEO benefits (H2): SEO for website (H3): followed by text SEO for users... Hi,

I would like to know the best practice in employing the header tags for sub headings. Is it Okay to add header tags followed by lower level header tags without text in between? I mean like the below example:

SEO benefits (H2):

SEO for website (H3): followed by text

SEO for users (H3): followed by text

Here there is no content in between H2 and H3 tags....Is that Okay? Or those sub headings under H2 must be just bold? I'm concerned as we have multiple pages to go on with similar structure of content?

Thanks ]]>
Google Optimization satish.seo http://forums.seochat.com/google-optimization-7/adding-header-tags-without-text-between-best-practice-493591.html