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    What can I do to make my Kung Fu's Patreon page work?


    What can I do to make my Kung Fu's Patreon page work?

    patreon.com/6dragonskungfu

    What have I done (in the last years):

    - I publish a new content almost every 1-2 days on my website
    - I am writing an online Kung Fu course, a lot of tutorials and articles, all for free (400-500 in total)
    - Each time I share my articles on various social networks
    - I have reached the first places in Google SERP for a lot of strategic keywords
    - My visits' stats are always growing (15% rebound frequency, 3 minutes session duration)
    - I have recently started to sell video courses on a Woocommerce shop

    What I cannot do:

    - Create an interaction (only a few practitioners write me and only by e-mail)
    - Receive comments / likes / share on my website and on social networks

    The practitioners who write to me are very happy about what I write, so:

    - What am I missing?
    - Where am I wrong?
    - What can I do?

    After years of daily efforts (study, daily training, sharing, etc.) I no longer know what to do: the project is becoming economically unsustainable for my family.

    These are the other links:

    6dragonskungfu.com - Website
    6dragonskungfu.com/shop/ - Shop
    6dragonskungfu.com/complete-course-kung-fu-online-free/ - The free home study course

    Thanks in advance to those who want to answer.
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    Do you know of others in the learn-kung-fu-from-home industry who are successful?
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    Yes, a lot (Master Wong, Shifu Yan Lei, Larry Rivera, etc.) but please if you do not know how to reply to the specific question please do not go off topic (this is not a martial arts website). Thanks.
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    Originally Posted by leonida
    Yes, a lot (Master Wong, Shifu Yan Lei, Larry Rivera, etc.) but please if you do not know how to reply to the specific question please do not go off topic (this is not a martial arts website). Thanks.
    It was a valid question.
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    Originally Posted by leonida
    Yes, a lot (Master Wong, Shifu Yan Lei, Larry Rivera, etc.)
    Do what they are doing but do it better. Hence the reason for Panic's ?
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    "Learn kung fu online" gets 200 searches a month. You're 3rd. Not saying that's bad, but you aren't going to make a killing from that.

    "Master Wong" gets 1.6k alone.


    Your type of business cannot rely specifically on search, because there's not enough of a demand for it. Google is purely about demand.

    So you have two options.
    1) Get a reputation like master wong. Where he has more searches than your main keyword.
    2) Look for different types of marketing, perhaps Facebook, Youtube - Go all out on Social Media. Create a demand for your service.

    Another thing I'd do (although a bit dirty) is try to rank a comparison page, between your package and Master Wongs, etc etc. Try to rank for your competitor's brands.

    See Incapsula do this against Cloudflare:



    Another option which a lot of businesses do, is bid on their competitors brand names on Google Ads, that's something else I'd do.

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    Thanks for the replies. What I need is 20-30 people to follow with cure nothing more nothing less.

    Do what they are doing but do it better. Hence the reason for Panic's ?
    Ok, but they do a lot of things and not all are so good.

    "Learn kung fu online" gets 200 searches a month. You're 3rd. Not saying that's bad, but you aren't going to make a killing from that.

    "Master Wong" gets 1.6k alone.




    Your type of business cannot rely specifically on search, because there's not enough of a demand for it. Google is purely about demand.


    So you have two options.
    1) Get a reputation like master wong. Where he has more searches than your main keyword.
    2) Look for different types of marketing, perhaps Facebook, Youtube - Go all out on Social Media. Create a demand for your service.


    Another thing I'd do (although a bit dirty) is try to rank a comparison page, between your package and Master Wongs, etc etc. Try to rank for your competitor's brands.


    See Incapsula do this against Cloudflare:






    Another option which a lot of businesses do, is bid on their competitors brand names on Google Ads, that's something else I'd do.
    Ok, when you say "reputation" what do you mean in SEO terms?
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    I don't mean in SEO terms. To be the guy people look for, like Master Wong, you need to build your brands repuation. Him as a brand is bigger than your whole niche according to search volumes.

    I'd say the best route to that is getting a good following on Social Media / Youtube, be good at what you do etc.

    You need to find people who aren't exactly looking for your services and lure them in, somehow. This is why I suggested Facebook ads.

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    With Facebook Ads do you suggest to promote all of my posts or a specific page?
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    That's as far as I can go with this really. I'm no Facebook Ad specialist.

    Be warned though, if you don't do thing's right, you will lose money. Maybe worth going on a course in Google ads / Facebook ads

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