MSNBot

Hi people,

MSNBot crawled my new site many times and I don't get indexed

We have pointed to that website few inbound links and we was indexed by google and Yahoo.

Can you help me with advices?

nothing to worry, google is fastest to index any site, then comes yahoo, slowest is MSN..

But now msn has changed a little bit but still i think it is slowest.
So for getting indexed in msn , just wait and wait.. one good day it will appear .

really!? my sites get indexed fast...within 3 - 4 days. and links show up on MSN in a matter of hours sometimes..

How fast can I get ranking in MSN as soon as my website will be indexed by MSNBot?

I'd have to disagree with that. MSN Appears to be fastest, although I'll agree that some changes can take a lot longer to be reflected in the SERPs than you would think.

links4u, be patient, give it a week or two more.

I'ld have to disagree with you. A brand new site i was working on was indexed the fastest, deepest and most frequently by MSN.

umm..
I earlier wrote
But now msn has changed a little bit

So I do agree that msn has changed.. FYI.. my comments about msn was last few years experience.. recently no site so can't say about indexing power..

Moreover.. being on first page on msn is like being on 5th page on google.. ie it will server only that much traffic on being on first page that will be equal to google's traffic if you are on 5th page for same in google..

So who cares much about MSN.. rt now..not much (me)

Well, by your own admission you obviously aren't keeping up on things in the here and now. MSN is quickly becoming more popular and will most likely be slowly but surely pushing Google every day. So perhaps you, having admitted that you are behind the times, shouldn't make statements that you don't know to be true.

Ignore MSN at your own peril.

I would be worried just from the speed I see pages indexed. Whether from a new project "Junk" page to simply new additions. 24 to 48 hours. If I want a page updated, I simply go to the MSN Submit and poof, 24 hours the changes show up.....try this, as it maybe all you need to do. If that doesn't work, then you need to take a hard look at what you're doing on page whether it is in your code, your content or site structure. All are relevant to MSN's rank algorithm.

As far as fastest to index, this would relate to experience, but overall I would say you're wrong. MSN is by far the "speedy gonzalez" of search Ricky. Changing? Ha! Gotta laugh at that. MSN Will continue to mature as will the industry as a whole. To what degree, who knows.

You are wrong on ignoring MSN and it is misguided to believe this. The traffic is robust and competes just fine with Google. MSN has surpassed yahoo in referrals for comparable rankings across my site spectrum and most days surpasses even the great Google. Much depends on where and what you rank for, and MSN is indeed very "rankable" for virtually anyone willing to try.

Yes, there are area's I am sure you will not see the traffic. I've found them, and for me, quickly run from them to more robust areas of their search. That does not mean the traffic will not eventually begin to show up in yours. Surfers are like cattle, they'll not always graze in the same location, even when they have a favorite place to hang out, chew some cud and sunbath.

As is often the case Gr8ted3s has given everyone great advice. Ignore MSN at your own loss - cause I will gladly take the traffic you're leaving on the table. (Peril was a bit strong...lol).

I recently find first to show my site en cache is

1. Msn
2. Yahoo
3. Google indexes me when they feel like it but always last.

How many inbound links do I need to get positions in MSN?

How fast can I get positions for keywords with 5 milions results?

You need to learn your trade a bit before you ask those questions.

It dosent work like that.

You need to analyse your competition first before you ask that question.

Mike

Tell me which are the most important factors in MSN optimization?

inbound links?

inbound links (sitewide links too) seem to be the most important factor for me. i rank extremely well on the new MSN search for those reasons only.

It really dosent work like that.
Seo is a package with and search engine.
If you are looking for the key ingredients like on google.
Such as google loves lots of anchor text rich backlinks.

Msn Loves a clean, light and easy to spider template.
It loves correct use of H1 and H2
It likes a good set of backlinks.
It likes a bit of spammy text repeated a few times.

85% of my traffic comes from msn and because of this i can spend more time designing sites for msn and on page optimization and less time on tedious backlinks like i had to with google.

You need to read these forums more before you post these questions becuause it has been answered over and over again.
Use the search facility on the site and pay particular attention to post by

Wit - Clear information with no media spin.
Egol - Clear information and knows his trade.
Randfish - Has a lot to teach and wants to teach.
Gchaney - Relative newcomer to the industry but has a good grip on seo when he is sober.
GeoffreyF67 - A bit of a grey hat like myself and prefers automating tasks.
Fathom - Knows his trade
Jasontnyc - Knows his trade
Dazzlingdonna - Seo queen that knows her stuff.
LowLevel - Knows his stuff and gives advice

There are lots more that post some fantastic stuff but i personally pay attention to them.
You will find the people that make more sense to you than others.

These boards have lots of prevoius threads that will answer 98% of any questions most people ask when they are new here.
Spend some time crawling the prevoius posts and i guarantee that you will find the answers.