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Old August 16th, 2005, 05:30 PM
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How to bypass adsense gains limit ?

Hello,
this question applies to a situation experimented in France, I don't know if the situation is the same in all the countries covered by Google.

I have noticed that for some sensitive keywords (for example for finance-related topics), the adsense ads are not exactly relevant.
And more disturbing, in one of my favorite pages, the ads are not anymore relevant since the moment when that page won more than 20 USD per day. Google now displays 5 or 6 sets of ads which are totally unrelevant. But the right ads continue to be displayed on the pages of my competitors.
Is there a way to bypass this ? (Something else that the ad filter, which is not effective in that case).
Or must we auto-limit our gains for each page ?
Thanks for your answers,
David

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Old August 16th, 2005, 05:34 PM
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The title and description tag must reflect the word finance

Each page must have a unique title

Each page should have unique content

Other than that I don't have much info


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Old August 16th, 2005, 05:48 PM
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It is a special filter from Google

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The title and description tag must reflect the word finance

Each page must have a unique title

Each page should have unique content

Other than that I don't have much info


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thanks for the answer but I am pretty sure that it is a special filter from Google.
Ads appear properly in 99 % of my pages. The problem is only in a few pages with very expensive keywords and in my page that received the higher gains. And now the gains are almost 0 in that particular page, because google changed the ads.

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thanks for the answer but I am pretty sure that it is a special filter from Google.
Ads appear properly in 99 % of my pages. The problem is only in a few pages with very expensive keywords and in my page that received the higher gains. And now the gains are almost 0 in that particular page, because google changed the ads.
It doesnt really make sense that G would do this on purpose. I mean think about it, if you are getting a lot of clicks and making a lot of money off that page then G is making even more money off that page. To change the ads in order to limit your earnings would simply be counter-intuitive and make no sense. That is why Adwords/Adsense is such a good program... G has an incentive to get you as many clicks as possible.

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I sure can't see the wisdom in filtering successful ad partners. The more you make the more they make. Why not post or PM the url? I'm sure you'll find that there's not a "Jacksons" filter.
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I cant imagine why google would filter out one page out of billions of sites. I can only assume that the ads that they were showing- weren't performing as well as google would have liked- so they switched them.

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There is a filter

Sorry,
I will not argue on why a filter would exist. I expected an answer from experts, which I did not receive.

Just imagine that if you get high traffic for specific keywords and have people click on your adsense ads, Google shares the money with you. And with adwords, it does not share it with anybody.

In French, I rank in the first page of Google for almost all the low-competition keywords I target. And in the case of the highest paying words (some highly paid keywords are little competitive, especially when they involve several words), the ads are not totally relevant. And only my once best-winning page has totally unrelevant keywords. According to me, it is because it has reached a certain treshold.

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Sorry,
I will not argue on why a filter would exist. I expected an answer from experts, which I did not receive.

Just imagine that if you get high traffic for specific keywords and have people click on your adsense ads, Google shares the money with you. And with adwords, it does not share it with anybody.

In French, I rank in the first page of Google for almost all the low-competition keywords I target. And in the case of the highest paying words (some highly paid keywords are little competitive, especially when they involve several words), the ads are not totally relevant. And only my once best-winning page has totally unrelevant keywords.
Look man if you come here, you get advice from experts (not saying I am one but I am not a noob either). What you do with that advice is your own business. One occurrence of something on one page is NOT evidence to support some counter intuitive filter. So take the advice for what its worth and in the future... if you already know it all (or are going to act like it) then don't ask questions

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Look man if you come here, you get advice from experts (not saying I am one but I am not a noob either). What you do with that advice is your own business. One occurrence of something on one page is NOT evidence to support some counter intuitive filter. So take the advice for what its worth and in the future... if you already know it all (or are going to act like it) then don't ask questions


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Not a problem. If you want advice from people that I would consider the experts on Adsense search for the thread called "Adsense 1k club" and whoever is making that much off adsense would probably be an expert.

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Are you sure the ads are totally non relevant or is it a symptom of a large many themed finance site?

I have a large site that is broken down into multiple themes as a result the pages below the home page have far more relevant ads running and attract both higher CTR and $ per click, this is because the home page is too wide to attract well targeted ads, high CTR and high $, it's not a failure of adsense it's just a result of having a wide open hard to target home page.

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